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Article on Ben McDaniel - Vortex Springs Case

Discussion in 'Cave Diving' started by jeffloughridge, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. jeffloughridge

    jeffloughridge PADI Pro

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  2. Cave Diver

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    Interesting article, thanks for sharing.
     
  3. Kevin Carlisle

    Kevin Carlisle Loggerhead Turtle

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    That was posted on CDF last week. Good story, the camera was not abandoned due to the cable snagging tho, it was stopped when it reached the part of the cave where it was too tall to travel.
     
  4. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board

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    Great article. It captures what a lot of us have been thinking and leaves the questions open.
     
  5. mike_s

    mike_s Solo Diver

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    Perhaps we can get someone to change the title to this to reflect the correct name. Ben McDaniel. (not Montgomery)



    While it covered a lot of "what ifs", it made it out that he "mapped the cave" and he was a real cave diver, while in reality, he wasn't cave trained.

    I think the article leaving out the fact that he wasn't cave trained was a huge omission.
     
  6. Cave Diver

    Cave Diver Divemaster

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    Done. Ben Montgomery was the author of the article.
     
  7. SC_Hoaty

    SC_Hoaty Solo Diver

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    Agreed. One has to read between the lines to get that. The closest the article came to being explicit was this: (my emphasis)

     
  8. Blue Sparkle

    Blue Sparkle Captain

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    While on a tangential search, I ran across a (very brief) news blurb about Ben McDaniel from about 10 days ago. The reward was mentioned in the OP's article, but this expands on it a bit.

    COLLIERVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A Collierville couple hope to raise enough reward money to tempt a diver into the Florida underwater cave where they believe their son's body lies....

    Collierville couple hold fundraiser, hope to tempt divers to find son's body in cave - WHNT

    I hope it's okay to tag it onto this thread; it didn't seem worthy of a whole new one.

    Edit: I just noticed I had another copy of it open in a different tab - this one is essentially the same, but with a little bit more material at the end.

    "We are offering the $10,000 because there is someone somewhere in this world who is brave enough to go back there and find Ben," Shelby McDaniel said.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/12/2163587/collierville-couple-to-post-reward.html#ixzz1KUmFxZNq

    I can see why they would want closure - heck, even I want to know what really happened and I never knew him; but it seems a bit uncomfortable to "encourage" people to dive in there. I can't imagine how I would feel if I made that offer and someone who really needed $10k went in looking and died. Ugh.
     
  9. Tortuga68

    Tortuga68 Divemaster

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    The 'reward' offer has already been mentioned in the main A&I Vortex Indident thread... IMO there is no "back there" that hasn't already been gone to (that can be reached), & the guys who went there already are the bravest and best there are

    Reposting the offer is only increasing the (hopefully very slim) chances that someone will take it up

    'Tempt' is right... tempt to their own death
     
  10. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    Shelby Mc Daniel befriended a lot of cave divers on facebook,and when this reward was offered I made this comment. I was removed as a facebook friend by him,and told by some friends of the family he was been through a lot and I should be more considerate. I think being considerate,and tempting someone into a dangerous situation are mutually exclusive. I feel for the McDaniel family,but I abhore the idea of more victims to a greater extent.
     

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