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Bitterness of Scuba Instructors

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by FPDocMatt, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. Rhone Man

    Rhone Man Divemaster

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    Instructors who post on SB are in no way representative of the whole of the scuba instructors population, in both good ways and bad. Couple of illustrations (and trying to stay away from sensitive or pejorative stuff):
    • The "consensus" view on SB tends to be in favour of BP/W. Most instructors I know in real life express a strong preference for jacket style BCDs.
    • Many if not most instructors on SB are also tec trained. But in real life a tiny minority of instructors are tec trained.
    • Most SB instructors would toughen up standards for courses. Most instructors I know in real life are more concerned with churning them over quickly to make a buck.
    • Most instructors I know in real life do it for a couple of years and then move on with their lives. For most people on SB it is a lifetime passion.
    • DIR community is significantly bigger and more active on SB than in the diving population as a whole.
    • Lot more cold water divers on SB than in the population as a whole.
    Just sayin' - you have to be careful about extrapolating.
     
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  2. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Woof! ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    again, letting this hide in this forum is without merit.....
     
  3. gcarter

    gcarter Orca

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    You really seem to like poking bears...

    :poke:
     
  4. flots am

    flots am Solo Diver

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    I'd be bitter too, if I had several $100K in student loans and just discovered that I'm getting paid less to see a patient, than a plumber who stuffs a plunger down a vent pipe gets.

    flots.
     
  5. beautybelow

    beautybelow Captain

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    Is it possible you are confusing bitterness with ego?
     
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  6. flots am

    flots am Solo Diver

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    From my perspective, it's not bitterness, it's more sadness, at seeing new divers having the same unnecessary problems and bad experiences, again and again.

    Diving should be happy and exciting and fun. There's no reason a new diver couldn't take a trip to Cozumel for example, and come back with stories of cool fish and turtles and rays and gorgeous coral, but more often than not, we hear about getting seperated, injured, blown dive plans, running out of air, and DMs that didn't "take care" of the diver like the diver expected. With better training, these are all completely avoidable issues, and it's sad to see them recur with the frequency they do.

    I don't actually know any US SCUBA instructors that live off their SCUBA income. The guys I know all have other jobs that pay pretty well, or are retired. None do it for the money. By my best guess, I lose ~$100 in billable time from my real job, for each class session I teach. I'm sure others lose more.

    flots.
     
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  7. BCSGratefulDiver

    BCSGratefulDiver Mental toss flycoon ScubaBoard Supporter

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    That would explain it ... went to see my family doctor a coupla weeks ago. Dude looked like crap. I felt like we should change places and I should be the one telling him he needs to take better care of himself ... I think the stress and long hours are getting to him.

    ... Bob (Grateful Diver)
     
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  8. BluewaterSail

    BluewaterSail Happy in Doubles

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    I also wonder what brought on this question. I have been hanging around this forum for about a year, and I have not noticed a significant amount of bitterness aimed at students. Other aspects of the situation, but not students.

    Matt, could you please give some examples? Did someone write something that you think was uncalled for?
     
  9. TSandM

    TSandM Missed and loved by many. Rest in Peace ScubaBoard Supporter

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    The list of people who make more money an hour than I do: The guy who digs up my septic tank when it clogs on a weekend; the personal training I went to for a very short time (and would love to go to again, but I can't afford her); a whole HOST of riding instructors I've done clinics with. Some of the latter have rare talent, but you can't tell me that it takes either talent or education to dig up a septic tank . . .
     
  10. SDAnderson

    SDAnderson Dive Charter

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    Perhaps you need to broaden your definition of "talent." If it was so easy, everybody would be doing it; the fact that they aren't means it requires a person with some kind of special abilities - the pocket definition of talented. :wink:
     
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