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Hi everyone,
My husband and I are going (if everything stays open) to drive from Reno to Monterey and then on to Catalina. We plan to dive a couple days in Monterey but have no clue how many days to plan for Catalina. We will stay on the island and have 9 nights total for our trip so we have some flexibility. What would you suggest? Any suggestions about Catalina overall would be welcome as well. Thanks!
 
I did a trip report on Catalina. The dive park was fun, a bit cold, Kelp was beautiful and a definately change to dive in. We hung out with a 9 gazillion pound sea bass, lots of garibaldi, but the sea lions avoided us. I would think 2 or 3 days would be enough for Catalina unless you had a way to explore the whole island.

Catalina Island trip report

Good luck, safe travels,
Jay
 
I did a trip report on Catalina. The dive park was fun, a bit cold, Kelp was beautiful and a definately change to dive in. We hung out with a 9 gazillion pound sea bass, lots of garibaldi, but the sea lions avoided us. I would think 2 or 3 days would be enough for Catalina unless you had a way to explore the whole island.

Catalina Island trip report

Good luck, safe travels,
Jay
Thanks! That's helpful information.
 
One thing to know is if you plan on beach and/or boat. I believe Catalina has a boat up.

For Monterey/Carmel there are many sites. You could do a week easily, but Catalina is warmer and also very nice. Easy sites in Monterey are Breakwater wall, center reef, pipe; McAbee. Also Lovers cove. Most of Monterey is modestly easy entry and nice. The sea lions on the Breakwater wall are I think a treat. Swim out almost to the end of the wall and descend there and many young ones will come down to see what you are doing. They are very cute if babies and fun if older.

In Carmel the best site is likely in Pt Lobos park, though it is not open yet. Keep a lookout on their site as you need reservations, though anything midweek should be easy. Pt Lobos entry is in a sheltered cove with lots of life, and a good bit to see above 60'. The rest of Carmel tends to be more advanced (particularly Monastery and just north of it Carmel River beach) I would not recommend those for your NorCal coastal introduction.

I would get a guide for your first dives here, from reading your posts of Tahoe OW plus Coz. The coast, kelp, lower vis, surge might benefit from some local expertise.

I think the wake up dive eat dive eat dive experience on Catalina will be easier. Unless you're staying on the water in Monterey. I'm not sure about that. Its mostly diving from your car or from some cart or boat from your room. Boat would seem the same for each.

I've dove most of Carmel and Monterey and also a week on northern Catalina.

Sounds like a fun trip
 
Thanks for the info on Monterey/Carmel. We were planning to use a guide; do you have any recommendations? As you said, I've done Tahoe, Ft. Lauderdale, and Coz, so nothing like the kelp forests!
 
I mostly know Bamboo Reef, https://www.bambooreef.com/tours-of-monterey-bay, but mostly their shop personnel and their sidemount instructor (Lexi). Lexi is good and the shop is competent. The other main shop has been Aquarius, https://www.bambooreef.com/tours-of-monterey-bay. The third main shop/building just changed owners/names/completely-new and is now Cannery Row Aquatics – at Monterey's Breakwater Cove. It used to be Breakwater scuba. I do not know anything about the new business.

Bamboo Reef is just up the street from Macabee, you can walk tanks to the beach from it.
CanneryRowAquatics is 50-100 yards from Breakwater.
Aquarius is down the road a bit from Breakwater.
All of them are a roughly equal drive to Pt Lobos.

LoneOakLodge has been a favorite of divers as they have dip tanks, suit drying racks, sauna.
 
There is now Monterey bay something, it at breakwater on the pier that just opened. I haven’t gone in yet so I have nothing else to say, I use Aquarius because I can stop on my way out of town for fills.
 
If I were choosing just based on diving, not value, I would go for most of the time on Catalina. It's a barren rock so the visibility tends to be good to excellent even from shore. Plus, as noted, it's marginally warmer, those few degrees do make a difference. If you're willing to pay for boats you could see a huge variety of sites. I have always gone with the Scuba Cat, great crew, stable boat. We've stayed at the Seaport Village Inn, they are great at handling divers, including pickups and dropoffs at the Casino Point dive park. Great staff, pretty good breakfast, outdoor shower and rinse tub, and they don't mind if you drape your suits over the balconies. Don't be fooled by the pictures, the place is a motel with significant deferred maintenance. Some of the Catalina hotels are really fancy, though, and get upset if you have dive gear, so scout around. The hiking on Catalina is also outstanding, and the restaurants (were) pretty good. Jack's for breakfast, Lobster Trap for dinner. The Catalina Express ferry is a whole thing, make sure you get reservations for the Long Beach -> Avalon nonstop and allow plenty of time to get down the 405, one of the most congested stretches of road in the state, and I say that as someone who has been on pretty much every freeway in LA and SF at one time or another. They are pretty stable trimarans but you don't want to be spending more time in the channel than necessary. They do have extra allowances for divers' luggage, read the PDF on their site. You can even bring tanks if you want to, which you might, because steel tanks are not as universal in Catalina as you might think (I guess it's the name!). Also the fill/rental station at Casino Point has only 5-lb hard weights, no trim weights, so bring those if you really want them.

Monterey is a wonderful place to dive, viz is not as good but there is much greater variety of shore diving and all the amenities of a real tourist destination. If Point Lobos opens up I would spend one day there, you need an advance reservation but that's only an issue with availability on the weekends. (The hiking is also gorgeous.) The restaurants are outstanding, I like Vivolo's Chowder House for something casual, Passionfish for something fancy, but bad meals in Monterey/Carmel/Pacific Grove are rare if you do a speck of research. The wineries in Carmel Valley are hidden gems, I like Rancho Galante and Windy Oaks. The Cheese Shop in Carmel is one of the best cheese shops in the U.S. Obviously the 17 mile drive, Pebble Beach if you like golf, there's just a ton to do there if you get blown out, and the whole Highway 1 is worth seeing. Catalina and Monterey can both have crappy conditions, even in summer, just luck of the draw, so keep that in mind.

No matter which you choose, unless you have recent cold-water diving experience I would definitely get a DM for my first day. In Monterey I like Randall Spangler but I've had decent tours from all three shops, including one a couple weeks ago from the new Cannery Row Aquatics.
 
If I were choosing just based on diving, not value, I would go for most of the time on Catalina. It's a barren rock so the visibility tends to be good to excellent even from shore. Plus, as noted, it's marginally warmer, those few degrees do make a difference. If you're willing to pay for boats you could see a huge variety of sites. I have always gone with the Scuba Cat, great crew, stable boat. We've stayed at the Seaport Village Inn, they are great at handling divers, including pickups and dropoffs at the Casino Point dive park. Great staff, pretty good breakfast, outdoor shower and rinse tub, and they don't mind if you drape your suits over the balconies. Don't be fooled by the pictures, the place is a motel with significant deferred maintenance. Some of the Catalina hotels are really fancy, though, and get upset if you have dive gear, so scout around. The hiking on Catalina is also outstanding, and the restaurants (were) pretty good. Jack's for breakfast, Lobster Trap for dinner. The Catalina Express ferry is a whole thing, make sure you get reservations for the Long Beach -> Avalon nonstop and allow plenty of time to get down the 405, one of the most congested stretches of road in the state, and I say that as someone who has been on pretty much every freeway in LA and SF at one time or another. They are pretty stable trimarans but you don't want to be spending more time in the channel than necessary. They do have extra allowances for divers' luggage, read the PDF on their site. You can even bring tanks if you want to, which you might, because steel tanks are not as universal in Catalina as you might think (I guess it's the name!). Also the fill/rental station at Casino Point has only 5-lb hard weights, no trim weights, so bring those if you really want them.

Monterey is a wonderful place to dive, viz is not as good but there is much greater variety of shore diving and all the amenities of a real tourist destination. If Point Lobos opens up I would spend one day there, you need an advance reservation but that's only an issue with availability on the weekends. (The hiking is also gorgeous.) The restaurants are outstanding, I like Vivolo's Chowder House for something casual, Passionfish for something fancy, but bad meals in Monterey/Carmel/Pacific Grove are rare if you do a speck of research. The wineries in Carmel Valley are hidden gems, I like Rancho Galante and Windy Oaks. The Cheese Shop in Carmel is one of the best cheese shops in the U.S. Obviously the 17 mile drive, Pebble Beach if you like golf, there's just a ton to do there if you get blown out, and the whole Highway 1 is worth seeing. Catalina and Monterey can both have crappy conditions, even in summer, just luck of the draw, so keep that in mind.

No matter which you choose, unless you have recent cold-water diving experience I would definitely get a DM for my first day. In Monterey I like Randall Spangler but I've had decent tours from all three shops, including one a couple weeks ago from the new Cannery Row Aquatics.
Thank you so much for the details! This was exactly the type of help I was hoping for.
 
I mostly know Bamboo Reef, https://www.bambooreef.com/tours-of-monterey-bay, but mostly their shop personnel and their sidemount instructor (Lexi). Lexi is good and the shop is competent. The other main shop has been Aquarius, https://www.bambooreef.com/tours-of-monterey-bay. The third main shop/building just changed owners/names/completely-new and is now Cannery Row Aquatics – at Monterey's Breakwater Cove. It used to be Breakwater scuba. I do not know anything about the new business.

Bamboo Reef is just up the street from Macabee, you can walk tanks to the beach from it.
CanneryRowAquatics is 50-100 yards from Breakwater.
Aquarius is down the road a bit from Breakwater.
All of them are a roughly equal drive to Pt Lobos.

LoneOakLodge has been a favorite of divers as they have dip tanks, suit drying racks, sauna.
I talked with someone from what used to be Breakwater. They were helpful, but if there are new owners I might go with another shop just in case. Thanks for your help!
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/swift/

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