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Camera Attachment?

Discussion in 'Underwater Photography' started by Normal_life_is_just_SI, Dec 18, 2020.

  1. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I just realized what a dumbass I am (again! dammit!). Upthread I was complaining about wanting the Cetacea lanyard, but with 2 bolt snaps. I just realized I could just loop the paracord end through one to add a bolt snap there and then have exactly what I was asking for... Arrghh...
     
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  2. WS007

    WS007 Professional Photographer

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    We have two of the same white handle lanyards that you have for the Sony housing for our Nauticam housings (EM1II and EM5II). We do not use them any more as it happend already several times that the boltsnaps were released by themselves during handling/diving. I think it is much more dangerous to give the camera to someone on the boat via these handles, when it can happen that they are occasionally loose. In addition, these white handle lanyards are always in the way during diving, no matter how one rearranges them. We just give the cameras to the boat via the strobe arms or the camera handle itself. In these days most people on diving boats know well how to deal with delicate camera equipment. In addition, I always explain to them in detail how they should handle our equipment..

    For attaching the entire setup to a D-ring of th ejacket, we use a lanyard, similar to the ones described here. One end is permanently fixed to the camera (no boltsnap), the other end attached to a D-ring via boltsnap. Never any problem observed so far...


    Wolfgang
     
  3. beldridg

    beldridg Angel Fish

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    Yes, there is a risk of that and I have seen it happen once, maybe twice but never had both bolt snaps do it at the same time. And, they only time I use that lanyard is when they pass me the camera and when I pass it back.

    I also try to remember to face the gate of the bolt snap on both ends in the "right" direction such that it can't (or at least is a lot less likely) to happen. I've attached pictures of what I consider the "right" way and the "wrong" way. Of course, there is no real "right" or "wrong." :)

    Note that when you have it in the "right" way that the "fat" part of the bolt snap is in the hole and it generally gets stuck there.

    I've also not had a problem with it getting in the way during taking photos. Maybe mine is shorter since they do come in different lengths and it tends to stick up above the lens when I put the bolt snaps in the "right" way.

    I'd prefer another solution, but I haven't found one yet. I do prefer that they take the rig from me using the white lanyard and not via one of the handles or the arms. I also don't let go of the rig until they have it in hand.

    - brett
     

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  4. Chris Ross

    Chris Ross Manta Ray

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    You could use a small shackle in each hole to attach the bolt snap to to avoid the jamming, it's what I do with mine.
     
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  5. WS007

    WS007 Professional Photographer

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    Shackles instead of boltsnap is certainly the way to go (I often see people using shackles), in case one wants to use the white handle...

    I think boltsnaps are dangerous, even if it is only one boltsnap that loosened itself: you give the camera via the white handle to a person on a boat (both the person and you think it is secured), the person grips the setup via the handle, the setup then, unexpectedly, swings out. If the person is not loosing the setup completely, it is very well possible that the entire setup bumps uncontrolled into something and parts break...

    Wolfgang
     
  6. beldridg

    beldridg Angel Fish

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    Yes, totally agree.

    Funny enough, I woke up this morning and thought "why don't I just use shackles?" And then I read your post. I'm ordering one today that has shackles instead of bolt snaps. :)

    - brett
     
  7. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Does that mean that your handle will be "permanently" attached to the camera rig somehow?

    If it's attached to the joint between the strobe arms, I think that is the ideal spot for lifting/carrying the rig. But, then the handle will either be too long or it will keep the strobe arms from spreading out far enough.

    If it's attached somewhere else, then lifting the rig could allow the strobe arms to flop around.

    Am I missing something?

    Why not use the strobe arm clamps that I posted earlier? They have shackles built in. Bolt snaps on the handle, clipped to the shackles, seem like a fairly foolproof way to have confidence in lifting/carrying without a concern about the bolt snaps coming accidentally undone.
     
  8. beldridg

    beldridg Angel Fish

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    With the shackle system, there are multiple ways to attach it. I've attached a photo of the way I plan to attach it.

    I would call it "semi-permanent" meaning that I can remove it if I need or want, but i don't plan on removing it on a regular basis.

    In terms of the strobe arm clamps you referenced, I did consider that but you would still be attaching a bolt snap to the shackle on the clamp. While it is maybe unlikely, the trigger on the bolt snap could still get torqued and potentially unclip.

    I guess you could use the lanyard with the shackle and then attach the shackle to the shackle on the clamp arm so that it is removable when you remove the clamp, but I'm fine with leaving the white lanyard on the housing "semi-permanently."

    - brett
     

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