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Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by lexvil, Sep 1, 2020.

  1. lexvil

    lexvil ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Sponsor

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  2. Eric Sedletzky

    Eric Sedletzky Great White

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    It doesn’t surprise me.
     
  3. KevinNM

    KevinNM DIR Practitioner

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    “We have substantially completed our investigation,” said Eric Weiss, an NTSB spokesman. Weiss said that in the coming weeks NTSB staff will make public interviews, research and other investigative materials before the public hearing.
     
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  4. Ken Kurtis

    Ken Kurtis Loggerhead Turtle

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    To be clear about who does what, NTSB will present safety recommendations based on their findings. That's the October 20 hearing, which will be live-streamed and available to the general public. Criminal charges are pursued by other agencies, not NTSB, although those agencies may use NTSB findings in their case.
     
  5. xmass-Eve

    xmass-Eve Barracuda

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    Using a law from in 1800.... How sad.
     
  6. Barnaby'sDad

    Barnaby'sDad ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    If negligence is proven...what does the age of the law have to do with anything? It sounds appropriate and relevant given what has been released so far.

    30+ people dying on a dive boat...THAT is sad.
     
  7. xmass-Eve

    xmass-Eve Barracuda

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    Trying to find a guilty person all ways necessary to sooth the families grief is also sad. This law is more than 200 years old. It should have been adjusted. If they can't find anything else than to blame them with, and they are using an "obscure law from before the Civil War" it means they don't have much else to stand on.
     
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  8. Barnaby'sDad

    Barnaby'sDad ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Or...it’s possible that prosecutor(s) are looking at it from the perspective of a Captains responsibility to crew and passenger safety being so significant that it was written into law prior to the Civil War.
     
  9. letterboy

    letterboy Not today, Mr ATF, not today. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    This reminds me of those obscure laws that are still on the books across the country. The ones like don't eat ice cream on Sundays or walking your donkey in public is illegal...

    Everyone thinks they're dumb and outdated until some creative prosecutor finds a way to charge you with that 200 year old law.

    I'm not saying that's the case here.

    But I am saying, that this could be a case where an old law should have been reviewed at some point over the last 200 years. Because I can assure you the intent of the law was not to charge a live aboard dive boat captain...
     
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  10. Barnaby'sDad

    Barnaby'sDad ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Read it and draw your own conclusions. I think it sounds entirely appropriate. Absent significant evidence of negligence, I would say not so much.

    18 U.S. Code § 1115 - Misconduct or neglect of ship officers


    18 U.S. Code§ 1115.Misconduct or neglect of ship officers

    Every captain, engineer, pilot, or other person employed on any steamboat or vessel, by whose misconduct, negligence, or inattention to his duties on such vessel the life of any person is destroyed, and every owner, charterer, inspector, or other public officer, through whose fraud, neglect, connivance, misconduct, or violation of law the life of any person is destroyed, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

    When the owner or charterer of any steamboat or vessel is a corporation, any executive officer of such corporation, for the time being actually charged with the control and management of the operation, equipment, or navigation of such steamboat or vessel, who has knowingly and willfully caused or allowed such fraud, neglect, connivance, misconduct, or violation of law, by which the life of any person is destroyed, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


     
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