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Diving instructor faces court over death

Discussion in 'Diving Litigation' started by triminx145, Oct 7, 2010.

  1. sydney-diver

    sydney-diver Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Sydney, Australia
    According to this link the current wasn't strong.

    Dive death hearing told of supervision failings - ABC Gold & Tweed Coasts - Australian Broadcasting Corporation

    An earlier report (Dive death: instructor facing manslaughter charges) indicated Xia Dai was calling for help on the suface before disapearing and her body was recovered later. This implies to me she wasn't close enough to the instructor if it was a discover scuba (or her buddy if it wasn't).
  2. SeaTurtle42

    SeaTurtle42 Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: New Zealand
    Don't most instructors overweight their dsds and students? They have to sit comfortably on the bottom to do skills.
    Secondly, most instructors don't usually service the shop regs. Someone else would have done that.
    Thirdly, average visibility is what exactly to Wavebreak Island?
  3. BubblesDown

    BubblesDown Registered

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: Perth, Australia
    I know this case intimately, but won't disclose anything right now as it is still in court. The instructor facing the charges happens to be an outstanding instructor with heaps of experience. I think judging her is being cruel...you don't know her, you don't her experience level, and most of all, you don't know what really happened that day. Remember there are always two sides to every story.
  4. vladimir

    vladimir Solo Diver

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    As a group the posters in this thread have done an admirable job of reserving judgment until further facts are out, as you can see:

    The case involves issues that are of the utmost concern to divers, and it is totally appropriate that they be discussed here.
  5. marinediva

    marinediva Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives:
    Location: Illawarra.....south of Sydney australia & Balmain
    I do not believe anyone has judged her at all. think you are being a tad to sensitive.
    Maybe because you feel a personal connection with the instructor in question.
    I made the decision to refrain from commenting on what little information was in the press. I also believe the other posters, who I respect their opinions and knowledge have also done the same thing and NOT engaged in any assumptions.

    Please read the thread again. It does not judge her IMHO.
    A would think that a the majority of the posters know, it is in court, and because of that fact, have restrained till all the information is public and judgement set down/
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2010
  6. Thalassamania

    Thalassamania Diving Polymath ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: On a large pile of smokin' A'a, the most isolated
    No, I think it better if student are neutral and "do skills" up off the bottom.
  7. ZenDiver.3D

    ZenDiver.3D Rejecting Reality ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives:
    Location: Kuwait, but home is Savannah, Georgia
    No. Many, like myself, weight them properly and teach skills in proper horizontal position at neutral.

    There are a vast number, however, who do overweight as practice. A rock is easier to keep track of, after all.............:shakehead:
  8. lightknightpete

    lightknightpete Guest

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: North Carolina
    I think the industry needs to be self regulated simply because of its world-wide popularity. Due to variances in mindsets and law procedure internationally it would be a disaster to have law dictate this kind of sport. But like previously mentioned, local contractors have an obligation to know their laws for the area, if the instructor was aware of the potential consequences and assumed them, then its their battle to fight. The old saying goes "ignorance of the law is not an excuse". Meaning its your job to know the law around yourself.
    As for guilty or not, I can't guess, as I've 1 pool training session of diving expierence, so I don't have a place to say.
  9. dmoore19

    dmoore19 Denizen of the PUB ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Frozen He**, Stay Away!
    In the event of a death, is a charge of manslaughter mandatory or have I mis-interpreted?
  10. BubblesDown

    BubblesDown Registered

    # of Dives: 25 - 49
    Location: Perth, Australia
    Ok, fair enough. I'll take that on the chin. It's been really difficult for all of us that know her and worked at this shop. I guess I overreacted because I've been seeing a lot of negative comments about her. My apologies for snapping so quickly, but like I've stated before, it's just really tough emotionally.

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