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Don't know what happened

Discussion in 'Near Misses & Lessons Learned' started by Dody, May 2, 2021.

  1. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    435
    134
    Oh! I will do that. 50 meters with full gear with and without the arms.
    You misunderstood my comments about frog kick. I hate it. I never use it except when avoiding to kick silt up or when I am very tired doing flutter kick.
    Finally, why do you talk about buddy? I was cast away trying to catch up. Thinking about the risk of ripping the regulator of a buddy that does not exist would have been like... I don't know.
     
  2. inquisit

    inquisit ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Boulder, CO
    152
    81
    You say that you were entirely submerged with 6 kg, but did not sink when adding 2 more kg?? Had you lost weight before trying 8 kg (for example, by breathing down your tank)?
     
  3. johndiver999

    johndiver999 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Gainesville FL
    1,652
    1,690
    I'm completely lost with these statements about weight. Is this a typo or something?
     
  4. Coztick

    Coztick Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: calgary
    686
    449
    Dody, you got smoked in a race with kids who can probably go faster yet. Thinking you're fast when nobody else is trying has left you delusional regarding your speed.
    You say your technique is good, so you'll need more power. Aka larger blades and stronger legs/core.
    Until then, please don't assume you're able to provide an adequate level of care to be considered a pro.
    New divers can make fatal mistakes. They bolt for the surface or even the depths to chase a dropped object.
    You simply MUST be able to catch them.
    Good luck with your training!
     
  5. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    435
    134
    Exactly. This is one of the things I do not understand. With 6kg (I used to dive smoothly with 5 with the old gear), when exhaling and a BCD without air, my head was totally submerged. However, I could not descend, even fully exhaling without someone pulling me down or being given 2 more kg. This within 2 minutes so no tank breathing issue.
     
  6. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    435
    134
    I am lost with your comments. What don’t you understand? I am just stating facts. Not root cause.
     
  7. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    435
    134
    I know I still have to learn. And that’s what I am doing. Probably more thoroughly than some of the usual blamers. I don’t count you with them :)
     
  8. Dody

    Dody Contributor

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Amstelveen
    435
    134
    I think that everyone should like this one :)
    When you expose your weaknesses on SB, if you can't face, fight and use your commom sense against the Usual blamers, you are likely to be prone to panicking underwater. And you should not dive :) . If you are able to rely on the mind that God has given us (WTF am I writing it, I don't even believe in God), your odds of having a long and safe diving live are better.
     
  9. divin'dog

    divin'dog Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: New England
    812
    297
    Well, you opened a can of worms with this thread... Good for you to ask. Thick skin will get you through this but think about what some of the well experienced divers are telling you. They're experienced for a reason.

    As for #1 in your reply, forget about the 2 teens in that dive. Move on... This event has passed. You need to concentrate on you. Done. Over.
    As for #2, I could see where problems would arise if you were not weighted properly. Get in the water and get your buoyancy as PERFECT as possible. It will not happen tomorrow, next week, next month or even next year. But one day it will be "perfect". Also with buoyancy, you need to make sure your trim is good. Be sleek. Watch the dangling hoses, they add drag.
    As for #3, yes, dive, dive, dive, dive... It is not about your new gear. Good divers can dive well with crappy gear, new gear, old gear, any gear. You really need to dive to refine your skill. People with 1000s of dives have much more refinement than you and I. I like to tell divers that it is not about going fast. It is about going smooth... Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Try the exercise below...

    Go on a dive in a shallow (15'?) area with NO current (hopefully with a buddy who wants to do the same thing) and set your depth and trim and buoyancy. Now just hover for a long time in space. It helps if there is something interesting to look at. Now be quiet... No arms, no finning, no movement if possible. Hover in quiet. Maintain your depth, trim and buoyancy. It may not be easy. Your breath should be very slow and relaxed. Your body should be comfortable, suspended. Feel the water around you. Every motion creates a reaction no matter how small. If you move your head slowly, can you feel what it does in the water? Can you feel the changes it creates around you? What happens if you only wiggle your body? What if you just give the smallest tap of your fin? Instead of a being a diver "crashing" into the water, finning as fast as possible, try to be part of the water. Feel what is going on. Try to move in harmony with it. You will be a better diver as part of the water than being a diver in the water.

    Hopefully, one day, everything will click and you will have a dive where everything feels just perfect... And you will forget you are diving at the moment.

    Good luck. Be safe.
     
  10. johndiver999

    johndiver999 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Gainesville FL
    1,652
    1,690
    You head goes under with 6 kg but you can not descend with 8 kg ? how does this make sense?
     
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