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Doubles, Weight and Dry

Discussion in 'Hogarthian Diving' started by LavaSurfer, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. rjack321

    rjack321 ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    130s are the same basic dimensions as 108s, the the 3442psi version. The youngsters are all over them nowadays :)
     
  2. JeffG

    JeffG Solo Diver

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    Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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    Darn things almost make you want to go RB's. :wink:
     
  3. ucfdiver

    ucfdiver DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Orlando, FL
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    Start saving for an RB80 yet?
     
  4. DeepSeaExplorer

    DeepSeaExplorer Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Cave Country
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    You mentioned cave divers in another post that I can't find. I don't know if that was directed at me, but I will say that I do most of my diving in the ocean, not caves. I've only been a full cave diver for 4 1/2 years now, whereas I have 20 years of diving in the ocean. I have two other ocean rigs, one for single tank and one for doubles, and I do not have ditchable weight on them either.

    In fact, I don't wear any lead at all anywhere on me or my rigs. All my rigs are properly balanced with the proper combination of tanks and plates so it isn't necessary. That's why I have three different BP&W setups, one for each type of diving I do. The only time I use a ditchable weight belt is when I break out my recreational BC and it's only because there's no where to rig permanent weight on such a rig, at least not with out investing time which I prefer to spend elsewhere.

    I was half kidding and half serious when I said ditchable weight is for beginners. Yes, beginners need ditchable weight so a DM or someone else can save their ass when they panic on the surface the first time they swallow some water. Sorry, if that sounds disrespectful of beginers, I'm just being brutally fank in the interest of time and typing.

    However, as an experienced diver that has been tested over the years, I know from experience that you will not see me panic on the surface. Therefore, I don't need ditchable weight. I can get back to the surface and maintain myself there in any sea conditions as necessary. I know, I've had to do it real world.

    So I am confident that I don't need any ditchable weight, maybe you do. That's okay, it doesn't make you a bad person, just don't preach to me.

    The more I read posts with divers of different experience levels clashing, the more I am really convinced that there needs to be two standards in diving. One for beginners and another for experienced divers that know what they are doing. One day, maybe me or someone else will write some. That would also save instructors from being put in a position of having to exclaim, "Do as I say, not as I do." Until then, please just accept that there is more than one way to skin a cat...
     
  5. ScubaAndDreams

    ScubaAndDreams Instructor, Scuba

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    I just hope some poor fellow doesn't show up in Hawaii wanting to take a course from me, with the instructor name "nereas" on his prerequisite c-card. I'll probably have to teach them how to clear a mask.
     
  6. ucfdiver

    ucfdiver DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Orlando, FL
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    I think nereas posted the other day the easiest way to clear a mask is to take your dive knife and cut a hole in it so the water can drain out.....Sounds about on par with over weighting yourself just to say you have droppable weight, right? :rofl3:
     
  7. diverbob

    diverbob Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Imperial MO
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    So instead of learning to breath slower, just carry more air? That sure would make gas matching fun with someone diving 95s.

    Thanks for the info.
     
  8. Boxcar Overkill

    Boxcar Overkill Barracuda

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    Another day in the market place of ideas. Some peoples stock goes up, other people's stock goes down.

    The discussion is good either way.
     
  9. ucfdiver

    ucfdiver DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Orlando, FL
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    That's a pretty big assumption. I use LP108's not because my breathing rate sucks, but because I want to see more cave :eyebrow:
     
  10. diverbob

    diverbob Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Imperial MO
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    I totally understand that. I love my 108s as well. But for me, doubling up 130s seems a bit much.
     

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