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Dream BCD With Superiour Weight System. Is it out there?

Discussion in 'Buoyancy Compensators (BC's) and Weight Systems' started by BrokenSailor, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. TSandM

    TSandM Missed and loved by many. Rest in Peace ScubaBoard Supporter

    I think there are some problems with definitions here.

    A "BC" is a device you wear that has a flotation bladder and allows you to compensate for the weight of the air you are going to breathe, and the loss of buoyancy from your exposure protection at depth. BCs come in several different designs -- Jacket BCs have an air bladder that wraps all the way around the diver, so when they are fully inflated, the diver feels a squeeze around his body, and tends to be held up in an upright position on the surface. Back inflate BCs have all the flotation behind the diver. They don't wrap, and don't squeeze. They tend to be less bulky in the front than jackets. Either kind of BC can be had with integrated weights or without them. A backplate and wing is a specific type of back-inflate BC, where the support for the tank is a metal or plastic plate, and there is a separate air bladder, or wing, that is attached to the plate, and a separate harness, that attaches the plate to the diver. This setup can also be assembled with an integrated weight system, although it commonly is not.

    If all the weights that are required to sink one's exposure protection are attached to the BC, then you are quite right that anyone removing such a rig will then have to deal with the fact that the rig is now quite negative (since it's not balanced by the neoprene any more) and the diver is quite positive (because he has been deprived of the weight he needs to be neutral). This is one of the reasons that a lot of people prefer NOT to put all the weight on the rig. This can be accomplished by the use of a belt, or a weight harness like the DUI Weight & Trim. The latter leaves you with the possibility to pull weights, rather than drop a belt, but the weight harness is separate from the BC, so you can take the BC off without becoming too positive.

    Does this help at all?
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  2. BrokenSailor

    BrokenSailor Angel Fish

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Where ever they send me
    Yes, that actually helps a lot. You quite simply answered my original question with a possible solution. Thank you.
    I will check out the DUI Weight and Trim. I have the two Zeagles on the way. I picked up a pocket belt for my son. I had the guy swap the AIR2 off my sons BC and put it on mine, and send me a spare hose (now that I know what an AIR2 is) in case I want to take it off.

    ---------- Post added June 27th, 2013 at 01:37 PM ----------

    The DUI seems like it would be too bulky under a BC, but I am liking that for Dry Suit Dives. I will pick up two of them when my son has to do his open waters using a dry suit. Thanks!

    I have been picking my stuff up gently used at http://www.discountdivers.com

    Anyone have anything bad or good to say about them?
  3. tracydr

    tracydr Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: North Carolina, 3 miles from South Carolina
    Maybe a sidemount system?

    ---------- Post added June 27th, 2013 at 11:52 AM ----------

    And this is why you don't go into any overhead environment-cave, cavern, wreck, school bus, anything, until you are trained and equipped. You are very, very lucky to still be alive.
    Even military training doesn't teach you you special procedures needed to survive a cave, although you are very much ahead of the usual diver. Unfortunately, there seem to be more people in the highly experienced but not overhead trained that are likely to get into trouble. Recently, a PADI instructor and his two kids came incredibly close to dying in a cave. They were saved by a local hero and a lot of luck.

    ---------- Post added June 27th, 2013 at 12:03 PM ----------

    How much experience do you have again? These seem like awfully basic questions for somebody thinking about squeezing through restrictions.
  4. BigDaddyHouseboater

    BigDaddyHouseboater Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Bakersfield, Ca.
    If you didn't get this figured out yet, PM me and we can talk offline. Im an old fart too and just upgraded to Zeagle. We can discuss my rig and how it works for me at my age, how I set it up for control, and the weight belt I use as a second. And I wont bitch you out for past experiences.. lol:no:

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