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Fire on dive boat Conception in CA

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by divezonescuba, Sep 2, 2019.

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  1. Louisville Diver

    Louisville Diver Nassau Grouper

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    Did they? Where are the markings for that hatch? Is there emergency lighting on it? Can it be quickly or easily engaged?

    Where does it even go to?
     
  2. lexvil

    lexvil ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    Eric;
    I’m following this thread even though a huge part of it is fear driven by people who may wish to reevaluate their hobby as to risk factors and vocal experts who have never seen a dive boat making claims about death traps etc. this happened less than 30 hours ago, so far other than a a rough number of people on the boat we KNOW nothing! I’ve been on Conception but more often on vision, these are good boats and a great outfit overall
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    The one theory that I find to be interesting is the battery fire idea, and even if that isn’t the cause of this fire maybe some changes need to be made in where and how battery charging should be allowed, I don’t know but I do know that there are battery restrictions in place for air travel and shipping in general.

    For anyone who thinks the NTSB can’t come up with plausible and or probable explanations for this tragedy has seen what they can do with airplane wrecks, I anxiously await the findings.

    Note the picture of the escape hatch in the video, you can see the red sign on it from the outside telling you to keep it clear and why, there is usually one near the hatch below too but the video capture is not at an angle that shows this and actually makes it look worse the it is. And for the not well maintained claim it seems some base this on passenger crap laying around which happens as people move stuff around and is common, it has nothing to do with boat maintenance.

    These are west coast “dive boats” not luxury vacation liveaboards, as you, Eric once pointed out, west cost divers are different and west coast diving is different, i and most of my dive buddies don’t want hand holding and that sometimes spoils trips abroad where they are used to catering to people more closely, I just want to enjoy my diving my way.

    The insurance payout will be astronomical and I hope the dive operations can survive the new premiums, like those of us in rural California are finding with fire insurance after the past few years of wildfires.
     
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  3. lexvil

    lexvil ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    It’s in the video, the outside exit is shown right after the head shot, also the inside shot you posted doesn’t show the angle properly to see the sign or where it would be.
     
  4. bubblesmd

    bubblesmd Angel Fish

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    Maybe start charging the lithium batteries in those fire and explosion proof bags?

    Tragic... I was contemplating going on a multi-day with Truth Aquatics in October. I'll probably wait a couple of years until the cause of this fire and the ensuing regulations happen before going on any live aboard now.

    Rest in peace. :(
     
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  5. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    Yes it is. There are so many I usually don't bother to recharge, just use what I have charged and carry extra regular AA's. Of course I'm not a photographer, just point and shoot so my non-diving friends can see why I'm crazy.

    I would not bet against a no charging at night precautionary measure untill they sort out the reason for the fire.



    Bob
     
  6. agilis

    agilis ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I remember when the Oceanos went down. The crew managed to get off just fine.
     
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  7. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    aa's don't bother me, charging lithium video lights, scooters, lights etc do. They should never be charged unattended.
     
  8. Louisville Diver

    Louisville Diver Nassau Grouper

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    I thought that was the case, and is clearer on this large monitor than it was on my phone. Its an emergency exit through a 2X2 opening into a 3 foot tall unlit cabinet that you'd have to be either a contortionist or 10 years old to use, considering the height of the revenue bunk underneath.

    Seems incredibly jacked up to me.

    As to the angle issue, every place I've ever been with an emergency exit has clear markings approaching it, and a clear path to use it. In this instance, unless someone tells you where it is, it isn't readily visible, even with the lights on.
     
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  9. Marie13

    Marie13 Great Lakes Mermaid ScubaBoard Supporter

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    There is only only one liveaboard on the Great Lakes. It sails out of MN and goes to wrecks around Isle Royale in Lake Superior. I believe it’s usually a 4-5 day trip. I’ve asked people I know who’ve been on that boat for how it’s laid out, in light of this tragedy, but I’m waiting for responses.
     
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  10. martincohn

    martincohn Solo Diver

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    Same kind of people that down vote every youtube vid, and report everything to fb.
     
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