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Fire on safari boat Suzana in Egypt (Red Sea Aggressor)

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by Miyaru, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. Schwob

    Schwob Solo Diver

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    Is there a reason you are double posting many hours apart and not sharing the inside information with all of us?
    Fire on safari boat Suzana in Egypt (Red Sea Aggressor)
     
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  2. chillyinCanada

    chillyinCanada Solo Diver Staff Member

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    Regardless, whether they knew or not, even if they did know, it's a human factor, along the lines of our oft mentioned "normalization of deviance".
     
  3. ReefHound

    ReefHound PADI Pro

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    The dive community found that out with the Belize tragedy where the Wave Dancer capsized killing 20 divers. Peter Hughes, while operating a worldwide fleet, had set up each boat as a separate corporation and the rest of the fleet was untouchable. Insurance on the Wave Dancer paid the limit of $5M. $1M of that went to salvage operations leaving $4M for the divers (and lawyers).

    I'll bet it's 10x harder to get a payout in Egypt than Belize.
     
  4. DavidFL

    DavidFL Wide-eyed nube in the Pub ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Hmmm...a cynic. Imagine that.
     
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  5. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    Yes
     
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  6. dwerner

    dwerner Garibaldi

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    Wow, so sorry to hear this bad news, I can’t imagine how you must be feeling... We are still reeling in our tight knit dive group in California. I was very recently diving the Red Sea on the My Heaven Saphire in October 2019. I talked with the crew and they were definitely aware of the Conception Fire and had heard about it from other neighboring liveaboards. One of the first things our group did when we boarded was to figure out how to escape if there was a fire since we were all hyper-aware. Once again, really sorry to hear what you went thru.
     
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  7. drjtprice

    drjtprice Nassau Grouper

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    Too bad DEMA is in Florida and not LA. A protest, even a loan picketer, might get the attention of the news in LA because of the Conception fire and the LA Times is pretty good (YMMV). The Miami papers can be good as well but the show is in Orlando, and FL has not had its own tragedy. Yes, Aggressor might try to shut a protest down, but if you are picketing in a public space it is freedom of speech.
     
  8. drjtprice

    drjtprice Nassau Grouper

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    One way of getting higher ranking in Google is to make a Wikipedia entry. Google Conception fire and the Wikipedia page is one of the first to come up.
     
  9. drjtprice

    drjtprice Nassau Grouper

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    I would have expected Aggressor to then make at least a small deal out of saying that the boat was a franchise, they were not operating according to the guidelines set out by the Aggressor Fleet as demonstrated by the arrests, etc. This is not the sort of problem that will just quietly stay swept under the rug.
     
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  10. Ucarkus

    Ucarkus Nassau Grouper

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    Interesting you mention Divers Heaven. Did you know that "Heaven One" was burned completely and sunk in 2003 and "Heaven Diamond" in 2008 had the same fate? No fatalities, only 1 person injured in 2008.
     
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