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Fire on safari boat Suzana in Egypt (Red Sea Aggressor)

Discussion in 'Accidents and Incidents' started by Miyaru, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. Miyaru

    Miyaru Tech Instructor

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: EU
    The statement from Wayne Brown sounds to me like damage control, carefully redacted by the sales & marketing department.
    The investigation will take its course, with or without Scubaboard. But the power of Scubaboard (and the internet) is that everybody has a voice, as seen with several witness accounts. Makes it so much harder to cover up mistakes.

    Twice now, the absence of a nightwatch has resulted in the loss of life. Not a single word about that from Wayne Brown.
    Nobody is perfect, so how difficult is it to say: we f#cked up and people died because of it.
    nippurmagnum likes this.
  2. chillyinCanada

    chillyinCanada Solo Diver Staff Member

    It's really quite difficult for a corporation to say that.

    @Egypt66, you have no idea how disrespectful your comments are. My recommendation to you is to be quiet now.
    xmass-Eve, Laurie S., Schwob and 3 others like this.
  3. John Bantin

    John Bantin Dive Shop

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: London
    Ahmed Fadel is the General Manager for Red Sea Aggressor.
    chillyinCanada likes this.
  4. Late in Life Diver

    Late in Life Diver Garibaldi

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Arkansas
    10 days later and Aggressor website continues to have a vague statement about an “incident” with a loss of life, still no mention that the boat caught fire, a passenger was killed in the fire, the remaining passengers and crew had to jump overboard to save their lives, and the Red Sea Aggressor sank.

    These are all FACTS, Mr Brown. Instead they remain in damage control, hoping people will continue book on their website by omitting these details.
  5. SoFlaDiver954

    SoFlaDiver954 Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Ft lauderdale, FL
    While I don't agree with their comments either, your comment comes off poorly, as well. I would expect better, especially from staff.

    Emotions can run hot in the wake of tragedies but let's try to take the high road...
    Anthias likes this.
  6. nm7sp

    nm7sp Angel Fish


    What is pertinent is that the NTSB took the quite extraordinary step of, after the Conception fire, releasing an Interim report based on very little investigation that basically said,

    There was a fire, the whole crew was asleep, lots of people died.

    I think that this was a clear statement that while the regulations will be a while in coming, that they thought it would be *extremely* necessary for the entire industry to understand their simple message and act on it.
    Land Fish, Miyaru and chillyinCanada like this.
  7. DavidFL

    DavidFL Wide-eyed nube in the Pub ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Orlando, FL
    You are apparently saying that because the post said that Ahmed was the owner/rep, and later said that David Home was the owner, is evidence of "kaos facts get distorted".

    I did not see any discrepancy in that post, and those and the other facts in the post you have described as distorted were very helpful to me in trying to understand and comprehend this tragedy.
  8. Dan

    Dan Orca

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Lake Jackson, Texas
    It is not uncommon that a liveaboard is owned by more than one person too.
  9. HalcyonDaze

    HalcyonDaze Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Miami
    A week after the Conception fire I took a multi-stage trip to get to Tahiti and back; maybe I was just more aware of it because of the speculation about battery fires (and having to leave my cell phone behind prior to the first flight because of a swollen battery), but I noted that at every luggage check-in and at U.S. Customs coming into LAX I got quizzed about having batteries in my checked luggage (moreso than usual). I had the feeling that wasn't a coincidence.
    chillyinCanada likes this.
  10. Schwob

    Schwob Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Illinois
    Whatever else I may think, ... and I do...,
    the above snippet of the more recent statement of Wayne Brown I do like.

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