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Future aka New Normal

Discussion in 'Indonesia' started by Indah, May 26, 2020.

  1. Dan

    Dan ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Lake Jackson, Texas
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    Yep. My city is the next NYC. Have we learnt the lesson, yet? Are we going to repeat NYC breakout?
     
  2. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Indonesia
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    So all those plane loads of Indonesians flying to Singapore for treatment died in Singapore because of being turned away?

    The mortality rate of covid is low

    Many Indonesians were/are frightened from the media that you'll die from corona if infected
     
  3. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Indonesia
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    Sounds like a load of bullocks to me. He probably had 1 of his girlfriend's over there to see or a business meeting there at the same time
     
  4. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Weda, Lembeh and Rao Morotai
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    Did you ever spend time in the emergency of an average Indonesian hospital? How many foreigners do you know whose lived have been saved here? If I survived the heart attack or stroke and I could find the money (and I would be allowed into Malaysia) I definitely would not hesitate to go to Kuala Lumpur. But I like your attitude, you are the first person I ever communicated with who was positive about the general medical care here.
     
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  5. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Weda, Lembeh and Rao Morotai
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    Low in percentage (promilles) but can be huge in numbers.
     
  6. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Weda, Lembeh and Rao Morotai
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    I think I understand what you mean. You are probably right. Anyway, I do not see an argument you are not. Thanks
     
  7. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Indonesia
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    Honestly sounds like you're joking. If you're suffering a life threatening medical episode such as bleeding on your brain from a fall or suffering a stroke, or some kind of organ failure, you think you will have the chance to say you want to spend hours of time getting to an airport and flying to Kuala Lumpur, most likely you'd need a special aircraft to evacuate you as a standard passenger plane probably wouldn't take you if you're broken and bleeding and on life support on a stretcher

    Your needless arguing about you saying no foreigner's lives have been saved in hospitals in Indonesia is beyond comprehension
     
  8. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: U.S. East Coast
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    I got a big fishhook in my finger a couple of years ago in Ambon. The local doctors cut the hook out and sewed it up.
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    Functional, but certainly not today's standard of workmanship....
     
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  9. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Weda, Lembeh and Rao Morotai
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    Sorry, but you said "many foreigners" And I did not say no foreigners at all. You mentioned a heart attack or stroke. Indeed after that I would prefer to fly to Malaysia or Singapore. But now you change to broken and bleeding....Shortly, if the travel would not directly endanger my life, definitely no doubt about going abroad for further treatment (if possible).
     
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  10. Centrals

    Centrals Barangay Pasaway

    # of Dives:
    Location: Hong Kong
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    If anyone is worrying about emergency medical treatment in foreign countries. Stay at home.
    It is never ever in my travelling plan!
     
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