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General Vortex Incident Discussion

Discussion in 'Cave Diving' started by sabbath999, Aug 25, 2010.

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  1. Blow.Fish

    Blow.Fish Nassau Grouper

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  2. Docc

    Docc Solo Diver

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    Well that was very nice, polite, and well stated. Proof that a little spanking goes a long way. :)
     
  3. Kevin Carlisle

    Kevin Carlisle Loggerhead Turtle

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    Not to take away from your post, but ummm, could you explain it please.
     
  4. PfcAJ

    PfcAJ Orca

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  5. ucfdiver

    ucfdiver DIR Practitioner

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    Anyone who's addicted to a substance doesn't need to be diving where there's no direct access to the surface IMO. The state has faith in the WKPP's high standards, and having addicts "supporting" when their mind is elsewhere (waiting for the next "fix") is totally unacceptable IMO. Furthermore, it causes increased co2 retention as well as less efficient decompression.

    As a RN and instructor, I'm surprised that you don't see an issue with that.

    Edit- Smoking typically LOWERS breathing rate, but I could care less about a divers SAC rate as long as it's planned for,
     
  6. Kevin Carlisle

    Kevin Carlisle Loggerhead Turtle

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  7. Rick Murchison

    Rick Murchison Trusty Shellback Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I don't give a rat's tail about GUE or DIR and smoking, but there is a definite smoking effect that divers need to know and digest when evaluating the smoking and diving compatibility issue.
    Smoke paralyzes the cilia that line the passages of the lungs. Without the constant sweeping motion of the cilia, things - mucous, dust particles, pollen, smoke particles, assorted other crud - stop moving up and out, and build up in the lungs until the cilia can recover and get 'em moving again. This elevates the chance of a piece of crud getting stuck in and blocking an alveolar duct. That is, that particular alveolar sac is "holding its breath," regardless of how well the diver otherwise obeys the #1 rule of SCUBA.
    This can lead to very bad things.
    Diving is a very good reason to add to the heap of other reasons to quit smoking.
    Rick
     
  8. UCFKnightDiver

    UCFKnightDiver Divemaster Candidate

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    There's a faucet too at his head. :) lol
     
  9. irishsquid

    irishsquid Solo Diver

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    I don't have a dog in this fight, but; I don't follow this (bolded above) completely.
    A person who enjoys an occasional cigar or pipe, say once or twice a week with weeks or a couple of months in between may have an arguable "addiction". However, having their mind elsewhere, waiting for the next fix is a stretch. IMO.
    The rules are the rules though, and it's a choice to follow. Play and Pay. :)
     
  10. Rick Murchison

    Rick Murchison Trusty Shellback Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Are you talking about smoking? Ridiculous. When I was smoking, and especially when I was quitting (had my last cigarette Oct 31, 1987), the one thing I could do that would absolutely, positively, reliably, always, 100% of the time keep my mind completely off any thought of smoking was to be underwater.
    Rick
     
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