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General Vortex Incident Discussion

Discussion in 'Cave Diving' started by sabbath999, Aug 25, 2010.

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  1. Rick Murchison

    Rick Murchison Trusty Shellback Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Somewhere I have some video I took several years ago, before the pipe was in there, back to the long restriction just beyond the vertical crack. It's pretty sorry quality, but I'll see if I can dig it out & make it available.
    Rick
     
  2. Cave Diver

    Cave Diver Divemaster

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    Purely speculation on my part, but I would think it's due to the time involved. Most recoveries are done fairly quickly within a day or so, sometimes within hours. In this case you have a missing person and the body hasn't been accounted for. That doesn't mean it's not an accident, but I would think they need to preserve the scene for additional evidence as much as possible in case a recovery is not made.
     
  3. mike_s

    mike_s Solo Diver

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    yes...

    Until the investigation is complete, they don't know what happened and have to treat it like any other scene where an investigation occurs.
     
  4. bleeb

    bleeb Photographer

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    I don't recall it being discussed, but how knowledgeable are the local law enforcement officials about cave diving recoveries? It was previously implied that they may have had to ask the volunteer search divers to interpret the victim's dive log, which would suggest they may not have a good understanding of the particular level of risk involved.

    Or is the second-hand news report a misinterpretation of the dive team looking for more support, or waiting for other IUCRR colleagues to arrive?
     
  5. Kevin Carlisle

    Kevin Carlisle Loggerhead Turtle

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    Recovery must be done by ICURR people or you have committed a crime.
     
  6. ScubaNurse758

    ScubaNurse758 Solo Diver

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    I dont recall hearing one way or the other on this.... have the recovery teams found any evidence of fresh collapse in the parts of the cave they have searched?
     
  7. MRXRAY

    MRXRAY Photographer

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    Has anyone confirmed that the FBI is onsite searching and are they bringing a dive team with them?
     
  8. mike_s

    mike_s Solo Diver

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    is the FBI dive team qualified to dive this cave?


    I'm still not sure why the FBI would be interested in a local death unless other circumstances are involved.
     
  9. diver 85

    diver 85 Solo Diver

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    .......makes one wonder........
     
  10. sabbath999

    sabbath999 Solo Diver

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    Can you explain this a bit further? I assume it is perfectly OK to FIND a dead body in a cave (well, not OK in the BIG sense, it is freaky and horrible) as long as you don't remove it but rather just report its location?
     
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