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I just found this forum - didn't even know it was here. Now I do!
To answer the question - ScubaFeend I assume you are referring to the famous "Fundies kicked my a$$" thread in Basic Scuba Discussions, in which I voiced my displeasure with the course materials I received in Fundies. I was happy to find out that I'm not the only person who felt that way!
Having only done Fundies so far (and not even passed yet - still provisional) I can give you my thoughts from the perspective of a DIR noob. The problem is that, other than the Fundamentals of Better Diving book that I was told to purchase (which is very high-level), the only other materials that I got were a bunch of handouts with worksheets on them, and copies of the Powerpoint slides. The problem with the handout/worksheets is that they dive right into the math, without giving a good fundamental explanation of what it all means - of the BASICS. I read those handouts over and over and over, and I didn't get any of it until I sat down with my instructor. Once he explained some of the basics, then it all made sense...but the course material was (to me) useless in and of itself. And it was particularly frustrating for someone like me, for whom math is a challenge anyway.
Also, the handouts print out in an illogical order. The first handout is Deep Stops, which is fine - that was pretty simple - but the next one plunges right into gas management for dissimilar tanks. I started reading that and my head started spinning around! WHOA! It was so beyond my understanding that I seriously considered cancelling the class right then and there, because I felt too stupid to take it. If there is an order in which those handouts should be read, it sure doesn't make it clear!
Now, I had an unusual situation that, for me, really emphasized the failures of the course material: I took my Fundies class in November, and shortly thereafter I had to have major surgery, which kept me from diving (or doing anything, really) for months. I'm finally healthy again and just now getting back into diving, but during my recovery I really didn't think about diving, or Fundies, at all. Now I want to get back into it, so I went back to my materials...and it was like reading Swahili. There was just no way for me to be able to regain the knowledge from the materials alone.
Last night I spent three hours with my Fundies instructor, getting a 1:1 refresher. That was NOT CHEAP (although he earned every penny of it). Had the materials been good enough for me to really be able to pick them back up and re-learn the parts I'd forgotten, I could have saved myself that money. And it really highlighted the failings of the materials: they are just not designed to be usable without an instructor.
Now, this might be at least partially by design: GUE may want to dissuade people from thinking they can learn what they need to learn on their own. I get that...but I disagree. I feel the materials should be able to stand on their own. Most people learn better from a combination of reading, listening, and doing... REAL learning can't take place without all three anyway. But the materials should be complete. One of the reasons that's important is that people can only absorb so much in one sitting, and the Fundies class crams SO MUCH information in such a short period of time. While this type of immersion training is effective, most of us simply can't assimilate it all. We need time to let it percolate, let the concepts gel, and it REALLY helps to have the materials to refer to later. And they just didn't work for me.
I should point out that I'm an educator myself (I'm a training manager at a Biotech firm) and part of my job is to develop and write training materials, so I have some background in what good training looks like. And while the overall class , and certainly the information imparted, is excellent, the materials suck.
Gareth from GUE popped into that other thread and mentioned that the materials have all been re-written and will be released soon. I sure hope previous Fundies students are provided with a copy! I still have a lot of assimilating and gelling to do, and it would really help to have some usable materials to assist me.
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I couldn't agree more. I've been trying to practice my kicks and it would REALLY help if I could refer to the videos we viewed in class. I feel the same way you do: I paid for the class (and it ain't cheap) and I shouldn't be forced to watch them once and then never get to see them again.
