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Have you ever been refused to be allowed to dive?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by wildbill9, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. drbill

    drbill The Lorax for the Kelp Forest Scuba Legend

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    In the distant past I have been by PADI instructors who had no clue what my LA County cert allowed (I'd been diving longer than some of them had been alive). Then in Cairns I met a PADI instructor who knew what my LAC card meant and even declared it "a museum piece." He gave me a PADI AOW Cert for the cost of materials.
     
  2. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Very nice of him, even though it breaks PADI standards.
     
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  3. mbs

    mbs Regular of the Pub

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    My wife/buddy has Naui II from the 80's and said she had issues a few times with folks not understanding the naui system. She took padi rescue with me and that issue went away. Our instructors told her she had way more training than what padi rescue gave her. She still loves to make fun of me for some of the padi training. Especially the section on ways to remove leg crams :wink:
     
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  4. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

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    Right. How about this one---
    I was in a pool once (in the U.S.) getting some tips on demonstrating the skills so I could upgrade my marks in the DM course back home (he was doing me a favor). He had me do the "don everything" on the bottom thing. When finished, the instructor handed me a filled out stamina test form and said he thought I was good with the skills and "So I gave you all 4s and 5s on the Swim tests, here". Of course I didn't use that form and took the tests for real back home.
     
  5. Rose Robinson

    Rose Robinson Contributor

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    Location: British Columbia
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    Hello Wild Bill,

    I haven't read all the posts, But I certainly do not believe that improving ones skills/understanding/confidence through training advancement is in any way representative of a scam.

    In the example you posted, your spouse may have just as easily been refused, and where would you have been then?

    I have been on many ''advanced'' dives, which in some instances could very well been categorized as technical, because of depth/current/water temperature or other challenging conditions, dives in which, had your spouse been allowed to dive on, could have presented many difficulties for her, not to mention placing her safety as well as your own in jeopardy.

    Also, numbers are not the be all/end all. If your spouse has logged 800 dives, her training level should have been upgraded a long time ago. Not much point in you being AOW, and her being OW.

    Rose.
     
  6. Rose Robinson

    Rose Robinson Contributor

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    M-Cameron,

    I totally agree with everything you said with the exception of the last paragraph, which makes it all the harder for the authorities to find the body, especially if no one knew the diver went out alone.

    Going out on a charter is not a right, it's a privilege that should be respected, and why would anyone represent themselves as something they are not? At some point in time, misrepresentation does not end well.

    Rose.
     
  7. M-Cameron

    M-Cameron Contributor

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    i meant "on your own" as in "independent of dive charter".....and not strictly "by your self'.....

    poor choice of wording on my part.
     
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  8. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board Staff Member

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    If you consider how much money these dive ops turn away as opposed to earning off of the few AOWs they sell, then it's apparent they aren't doing this for the money. Locals know local conditions better than outsiders can know. Often rules about certain dive spots were formulated thru the deaths and injuries of others. We should respect that.
     
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  9. Snoweman

    Snoweman Contributor

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    Interesting... I am leaving for Jupiter, FL tomorrow. One of the operators was very interested in our dive experience, especially with drift dives. A plurality, if not a majority, of my dives have been in Cozumel, where currents cannot only be swift, they can be downright hairy. From what I have read, there's no danger of a down current on the coast, as it is a flat bottom (please correct me if I am wrong). The only added degree of difficulty I am seeing is the lack of concierge service I get in Coz. (I'm spoiled)
     
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  10. 60plus

    60plus Contributor

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    It is about liability and knowledge. If you are not certified for the depth your medical insurance will almost certainly be invalid. Knowledge - on a typical dive to 20m you are very unlikely to get dcs. Do something careless on the ascent from your second dive of the day to 30+m and you are at far greater risk of dcs or going into decompression. Getting certified for deep (to 40m) is not expensive. I paid about €330 for 6 dives from a boat over 3 days to get both my nitrox and SSI deep diver certs. That is not much more than the cost of the dives alone.
     
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