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Herd Immunity in Indonesia

Discussion in 'Indonesia' started by SeaWarden, Sep 10, 2020.

Would you travel to Indonesia after they have accomplished herd immunity?

  1. Yes

    23 vote(s)
    37.7%
  2. No

    38 vote(s)
    62.3%
  1. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    What you're replying to was a question I was asking, so I don't understand why you're answering a question with a question
     
  2. chillyinCanada

    chillyinCanada ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    No we don't. We may know that a goodly percentage appear to be asymptomatic.

    We do not know what may happen to them later.
     
  3. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

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    Thanks, great article. Their conclusion? Maybe, we need a proper study. A new study led by scientists at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology (LJI) shows that memory helper T cells that recognize common cold coronaviruses also recognize matching sites on SARS-CoV-2.

    The research, published in Science, may explain why some people have milder COVID-19 cases than others—though the researchers emphasized that this is speculation and much more data is needed.
     
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  4. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    We now have the best evidence yet that everyone develops long-term coronavirus immunity after infection — and it's not just about antibodies

    Chilly, in keeping on the subject of scuba, I personally would dread getting an illness that would affect my ability to dive, especially a long lasting respiratory illness. But this is a very small minority, and like other illnesses we can't stop them all
     
  5. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    Another member posted the link earlier of the peer reviewed British Medical Journal report released on the 17th September 2020

    Covid-19: Do many people have pre-existing immunity?
     
  6. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    There is numerous data on this matter from studies that have been cited & peer reviewed & released in the past 2 months

    You can't ignore the science and emerging consensus of top immunologists & virologists in regards to T-cell immunity

    For an effective COVID vaccine, look beyond antibodies to T-cells

    I want to keep this subject matter related to the idea of "herd immunity" in Indonesia. So I suggest searching the internet for numerous scientific peer reviewed reports on T-cell immunity & how it's even viewed as possibly more important than antibody immunity
     
  7. chillyinCanada

    chillyinCanada ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Unfortunately one of the very minority is a friend of mine. 6 months later, she continues to suffer all manner of symptoms and has just recovered sort of from her second related pneumonia. It seems quite possible that she'll never dive again.

    So, you may not fear for yourself but you may infect others unknowingly.
     
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  8. SeaWarden

    SeaWarden Nassau Grouper

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    There are several strains of the virus. The one in Singapore is the mildest.
     
  9. DownUnderwater Dan

    DownUnderwater Dan Barracuda

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    In your opinion, is Singapore close to having some sort of "herd immunity"? There have been some studies over there in relation to T-cell immunity that have been given worldwide attention. People may still get infected but their pre-existing T-cell exposure to other coronaviruses stops the severity of covid-19 often producing no symptoms
     
  10. Indah

    Indah Manta Ray

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    Indeed. The magic is in the word POSSIBLY. But I agree that it is very interesting.
     

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