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How answer "what is your highest certification level"?

Discussion in 'Advanced Scuba' started by Bert van den Berg, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Scared Silly

    Scared Silly Regular of the Pub

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: on the path to perdition
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    Is that a polite way of saying you think we are all narked???
     
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  2. Centrals

    Centrals Barangay Pasaway

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    It is what you should expect.
    We are all individual and have our own opinion.
     
  3. Bert van den Berg

    Bert van den Berg Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New Zealand
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    Not at all. I was very serious. A lot of unexpected answers.

    Also, to the poster that said they were proud to be a Master Diver, so am I but have never claimed that to be my highest certification despite PADI's description of it being so ( for non professionals ).
     
  4. Bert van den Berg

    Bert van den Berg Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New Zealand
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    387
    You hit the nail on the head.
     
  5. Cdncoldwater

    Cdncoldwater Contributor

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Atlantic Canada
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    Two certifications required for PADI master diver are AOW and Rescue; those are the ones that carry more weight IMO than the 5 specialties and a dive op should know that.
     
  6. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
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    Yes. I don't think any agency actually ranks specialties, or other certs. other than the usual OW-AOW-Rescue and of course the numerous pro certs. So it is only opinion to say "Wreck is higher than Deep or Nitrox, etc.".
    But all is good, we managed 9 pages.
     
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  7. MichaelMc

    MichaelMc Working toward Cenotes ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Berkeley, CA
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    A few specialties take AOW and thus trump it in terms of certs.
    The Padi prereqs are:

    Nitrox: OW

    Rescue: Adventure diver, EFR
    Wreck: Adventure diver
    Deep: Adventure diver

    Padi MSD is a consolidation card not a class. It means you hold AOW, Rescue, and 5 specialties and have done 50 dives.

    Ice: AOW
    Cavern: AOW
    Self Reliant: AOW, 100 dives
     
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  8. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Philadelphia and Boynton Beach
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    I was just thinking about this too, SDI works also, SDI Advanced Diver or equivalent and minimum 100 dives. Still have to prove nitrox certification.
     
  9. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
    14,589
    3,972
    Right, narrows it a bit. But does Ice, Cavarn, Self R trump MSD? Ice & Cavern would seem not to trump much unless you're doing those type of dives.
    Ice & Cavern don't require Rescue first (or do they?). So then MSD must trump these.
     
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  10. MichaelMc

    MichaelMc Working toward Cenotes ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Berkeley, CA
    2,119
    1,323
    Solo and rescue are both about anticipation, prevention, and recovery from incidents. Rescue is with others. Solo is with no one else there to help. So, to me, Solo covers more than Rescue, for the diver themself. Thus Solo trumps Padi MSD. Not that you should not take Rescue, but for the diver themself Solo covers more.
    (ETA: Well, except for the bandaging yourself up part of EFR that is a prerequisite of rescue.)

    Cavern has a few problem-solving drills and emphasis on good trim and control, applicable anywhere. Which MSD does not add.
    Cavern Diver | PADI:
    "You'll complete four scuba dives with the first focused on line handling, reel use and emergency procedures outside a cavern; and the next three dives put your new skills to use inside a cavern. You'll also learn about:
    • Other specialized equipment for cavern diving, such as lights and redundant breathing systems.
    • Avoiding disorientation and anti-silting techniques.
    • Dive planning, including depth and distance limits and air management for cavern diving.
    "
    Also a good argument for trumping Padi MSD aside from the 50 dives requirement.
     

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