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How far do you swim?

Discussion in 'Cave Diving' started by JonG1, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. JonG1

    JonG1 Nassau Grouper

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    Cheers tbone I spotted it was feet but misread his post about distance in, think that would have been a bit too far for me!
     
  2. tbone1004

    tbone1004 Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I'm far too lazy to swim that far which is why I don't do the reverse traverse and back in Peacock. It's just too damned much kicking. I can do it, but I really don't want to.
     
  3. Superlyte27

    Superlyte27 Cave Instructor

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    Agreed, probably farthest I've swam in flow.
     
  4. ofg-1

    ofg-1 Course Director

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    Swim? You mean after your scooter dies and you ditch it, right?
     
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  5. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    As long as it is not a syphon and you have performed conservative gas management ( not 1/3rds which is way to liberal), then IMHO that is going to be the best means, because you are not dependent on a mechanical device which can fail. I have swam over 10,000 ft several times, swam to the Heinkel in high flow etc , never once did I come close to 1/3rds. I would ask the converse of your question, those that are scooter dependent, do they have the physical ability to make a long swim out if there are failures as max penetration.
     
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  6. tbone1004

    tbone1004 Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Can I? Yes. Do I want to? Absolutely not. The deco penalties of kicking out alone are tremendous in certain environments. I can get out in 25-30% of the time it takes to kick in most situations. I plan gas much more conservatively than that, but I also have a backup scooter for a reason...
     
  7. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    The concern is that there are those that have become so scooter dependent , that a safe exit plan may not be possible if they don't have a functional scooter to exit. A couple years ago I guided a guy that complained because the site we went to wouldn't allow scooters until you did 3 swim dives. We had to take 4 rest breaks in this low flow system with him clutching the wall and stopping with maybe a 1200ft linear penetration. This individual had no business doing anything more than a cavern dive. At least you have a back up scooter,for systems that are scooterable.
     
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  8. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    Yup, dont forget the Mainland incident.
    :eek:
     
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