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How to choose a Cave Instructor - My opinion

Discussion in 'Cave Diving' started by Capt Jim Wyatt, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. Superlyte27

    Superlyte27 Cave Instructor

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    I was cave diving almost 20 years before I taught my first cavern class.

    It takes experience to teach well. No way around it. Do you want your child being taught how to dive in an overhead environment by a guy who just learned himself how to dive in an overhead environment last month? I don't.
     
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  2. seanmeboy

    seanmeboy Angel Fish

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    Could not agree with Superlyte more! Caves have claimed the life of many an OWSI. I posted here because of something that happened to me recently. Found out he just thought he could teach deco in a cave. Still does! only been full cave for 2 months according to agency. Maybe these guys think they are self certified -Scary stuff. Glad I checked.
     
  3. kensuf

    kensuf Cave Instructor

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    There was a guy around here a few years back that was teaching a fair amount of cavern courses at a well known dive destination. He hated cave diving, absolutely loathed it. I have emails archived where he kept saying "I don't get it, it's just a bunch of boring wet rocks." He was strictly in it for the money and because he had very little cave diving experience to draw on, he didn't know what he didn't know.

    I hate to say it, but there are those guys out there....
     
  4. Germie

    Germie Cave Instructor

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    True, but you know the reality is different.

    @kensuf:
    But why would you want to teach cavern if you hate caves? It is just the money? Are there no other courses you can earn money from that are more interesting?
     
  5. rjack321

    rjack321 Captain

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    It also takes actually teaching skill. Being the most fabulous diver on the planet doesnt necessarily make someone a good teacher or even a good mentor.

    Diving skills and teaching skills are two different things.
     
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  6. Superlyte27

    Superlyte27 Cave Instructor

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    I used to teach in 39 middle schools and high schools. The subject? Anger management, healthy choices and abstinence. My brother always reminded me that those who can't do... teach.
     
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  7. Germie

    Germie Cave Instructor

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    True.
    And people who want and are motivated will get a higher level than people who think I can do it easy. You can learn skills, and you can learn teaching. But some are naturals. Some only in diving, others only in teaching. But the instructor without right divingskills is not the best instructor, then it is better to choose for a natural in both, or the one that has to work to get his skills and teaching on the right level.
    I am one of the cave instructors that has to travel to dive caves. I live in a country without caves. But even then things are possible, if you want. Did one of my instructor courses in Florida, and the rest in France with German IT's. Started cavediving in Thailand where I did my full cave course (cavern, intro and full cave in 1 week as is normal here). So even that is possible. But you must want. It is not easy.
     
  8. kensuf

    kensuf Cave Instructor

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    I love cave diving, been doing it for 25 years.

    The guy I was talking about was only in it for the money. He also taught sidemount, but looked like an absolute trainwreck.

    He eventually got kicked out of IANTD for a gross violation of standards.
     

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