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I hate dive flags!!!

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by Coldiver1, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Coldiver1

    Coldiver1 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New York
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    I have been diving since 1985 since then I have lost or got fouled up in more dive flags/lines than I can count.
    I moved to the west coast -no dive flags needed- I should have stayed because of that reason.
    I have been back east now and have lost every dive flag that I was in charge of.
    I have cut myself free of at least 4 lines. I have been at 75 feet only to see my dive buddies laughing at me
    because I was towing the flag underwater at that depth. I have had the wind rip the flag from the float only
    to find this out after the dive. I have used thick polypro line so entanglement wouldn't be as frequent as a
    thin line only I dropped the handle and it floated up and away from me. I have used a retractable dog leash
    which worked ok except for the fact that I have to carry about seven of them and attach them together the deeper
    I go. BUT I am on to a new idea. I have found a small construction measuring tape (100 feet). It retracts with
    a small handle. Also I drilled a hole into it and placed a lanyard to go over my wrist. I hope this works.
    Why can't someone invent a remote control dive flag? You place a transmitter on you self. The dive flag on the
    surface is propelled by a model boat motor and servos, and tracks you underwater movements?
    Or why doesnt someone invent a "dog leash" that keeps tension on the line that is at least 130 feet long?
     
  2. Mud&Rox

    Mud&Rox Solo Diver

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: NE TN
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    lol I feel ya....a RC flag would be awesome! but in my area ppl love to steel them......had 2 stolen last year....one took the float and flag and cut the line....another they cut the zip ties and stole the flag and placed a empty beer can on the fiberglass rod....damn rednecks....no worse feeling then dragging a stupid flag around only to surface to find you had been advertising for Natural Light....now im just using a 1' long piece of a pool noodle with a fiberglass driveway marker thru it and the cheapest flags I can find....for the line I use cheap masonry line from lowes ....kinda diggin the dog leash idea...
     
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  3. DennisS

    DennisS Marine Scientist

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Sebastian, FL
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    :rofl3: Now that's funny!!
     
  4. DivemasterDennis

    DivemasterDennis DivemasterDennis ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Lakewood, Colorado
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    Have you considered tying off the flag and staying within a reasonable distance of where you have tied off? That practice is acceptable in most places. As for entanglement in your own line, it happens, but can be minimized with attention to the slack on a regular basis. It's not really pleasant to have no slack, where wave action can "tug" on your line, and you. I have come to use an inflatable inner tube-like device with the dive flag above it, and a center area with a bottom that I can put a bottle of water and other stuff in, so it make the flag seem a bit more useful. I hang a three pound weight under the float for "ballast" and it's pretty stable. The flag is a pain, but it is also an important safety device- to let people in boats know to back off a bit, and also to let people know they are divers out there somewhere, in case you have an issue and don't return.
    DivemasterDennis
     
  5. nimoh

    nimoh Public Safety Diver

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Rochester, MN
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    I agree that flags shouldn't be necessary, unless you are prone to going to the surface without looking around first. I think a dive flag displayed on a boat is a good idea, but for shore dives, I think they are unnecessary. Instead, maybe there should be a requirement to shoot a smb before surfacing. I mean, what is the dive flag's function during the dive?

    However, if you are getting tangled in your line, isn't that a different issue?
     
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  6. Coldiver1

    Coldiver1 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New York
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    I agree that dive flags are unnecessary. How many time have dive flags attracted boaters. I wonder if dive flags/ lines have caused fatalities? I do love the SMB idea at the end of a dive. Although sometimes this is confused as a distress signal. Maybe a different SMB that indicates a diver is ascending.

    As far as getting tangled in the line... Yeah I got me some issues allright and they aren't limited to the underwater environment!:eyebrow:
     
  7. Coldiver1

    Coldiver1 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New York
    64
    3
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    I have come to use an inflatable inner tube-like device with the dive flag above it, and a center area with a bottom that I can put a bottle of water and other stuff in, so it make the flag seem a bit more useful. DivemasterDennis[/QUOTE]

    Yes it is useful- It holds beer. Unless you surface to find the whole damn thing is gone. Then it is a crying shame.
    :shakehead:
     
  8. Garrobo

    Garrobo Great White

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Ohio
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    Never dove with a dive flag. What am I missing?
     
  9. Coldiver1

    Coldiver1 Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New York
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    You should dive with one. Sooner or later that is what you will be missing!
     
  10. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
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    I'm lucky in that there are practically no boats at any of the local sites I dive. Need the flag (and usually required by law) when I'm further South. Yeah, sometimes it's practical to anchor it and stay relatively nearby. Generally it's a pain, especially when I am carrying my shell collecting bag as well.
     

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