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I hate dive flags!!!

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by Coldiver1, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. nimoh

    nimoh Public Safety Diver

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    some good ideas, and it got me thinking.

    what about tying a float on the rope about 10 feet from the surface float (just enough to float the rope). Then if you got some slack in the rope, the float would pull it away from you. Perhaps a floating rope might accomplish the same thing though.
     
  2. ektess1

    ektess1 Marine Scientist

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    I love dive flags. I like having the chase boat there when I surface after a drift dive.
    I also hate dive flags. In a current they will drag you preventing you from stopping. Boats will use them as targets.
    The line is a pain. I never clip it off except for task where I need both hands. At least one diver that I know has been given a free ride when a passing boat snagged his flag.
    I use a spool for my flag line. They are small, inexpensive, and easy to use.
    In locations where boaters do not encounter divers often, posting the law at the boat ramps may help. Something cheap that you will not miss when it disappears.
    Ed
     
  3. WreckDiver1321

    WreckDiver1321 Divemaster Candidate

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    DumpsterDiver, could you provide a picture of this arrangement? I'm having a hard time visualizing it.
     
  4. dumpsterDiver

    dumpsterDiver Banned

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    If you are not using a reel, then you absolutely must be using a floating rope. Polypro line is cheap and strong and yellow is high vis and it floats.

    1/4 in. x 100 ft. Hollow-Braid Poly Rope Yellow-14079 at The Home Depot



    As for the question of how to use the tubing..... Run a piece of very heavy monofilament (stiff) fishing line through the hose (or air line hose).. then use it to pull the rope through. Tie a loop at the end and use that to secure the small grappling hook. The hose goes to the end of the rope at the hook. At the other end of the hose/tubing.. just tie a knot in the rope and this prevents the hose from sliding up... 6-7 feet is probably long enough.

    I know that several people take a scrap of a pool noodle maybe 6 inches long and tie it to the rope about 20 feet from the grappling hook. It doesn't really provide floatation, but it serves 2 purposes:

    1: If you leave the float and come back looking for it underwater, sometimes the float suspended in the water is easier to see.

    2: When you are ascending with the rope, the dive tender in the boat knows you are at a depth of 20 feet when he sees the small pool noodle float thingy hit the surface.

    I don't tow a dive flag anymore.. I generally tow this float.. it has less drag than a dive float that sticks straight up and it has some flotation in an emergency and it is super tough, I drag it under bridges etc.

    mhhfr_exp.jpg
     
  5. Avonthediver

    Avonthediver Solo Diver

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    :popcorn:
     
  6. Liquid Pleasure

    Liquid Pleasure Nassau Grouper

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    I use a reel with a firm locking mechanism. I thread this float through a piece of rope about 30" long between a snap bolt and the reel. When I stop the reel floats away from me so it does not get tangled and there is constant tension on the rope between me and the reel.

    Pool Float.jpg
     
  7. Coldiver1

    Coldiver1 Solo Diver

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    So you are all talking about not even having the dive flag rope wrapped from the start of the dive? I was talking about shore diving where I have to constantly unwap during descent and wrap during ascent. I suppose having a thick polypro line entirely loose right from shore makes sense because it will float on the surface until you descend. IE:If I have a 100 ft polypro line and dive to 60 ft, then 40 ft of that line should remain on the surface.
    I think I will give this a try.
     
  8. Coldiver1

    Coldiver1 Solo Diver

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    To Liquid pleasure- I just saw the picture of the pool line float. That make a lot of sense
    Thank you
     
  9. nimoh

    nimoh Public Safety Diver

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    I think boaters could be a little more considerate when stealing a dive flag, they could at least cut the line :)
     
  10. molina67

    molina67 Angel Fish

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    That is hilarious... I'm sure you didn't think so at the time and could have been dangerous... but you have to admit it's pretty funny.
     

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