Jill Heinerth training video
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Seriously, folks, a lot of people are getting bent out of shape over a perhaps poorly stated but really valid viewpoint.
1. The video shows a surprising (to those of us that only hear about cave diving) lack of the skills we would expect.
2. The lack of skills were coupled to an instructor of whom the first thought is, "No way!"
3. Jill's email explained it -
4. Experienced Ginnie divers explain the impact of Ginnie flow on new divers - sounds like that is the way it is.
So, except for a few people that take the implied criticism personally on Jill's behalf (whereas she does not), and a few people who think they know requirements better than the instructor in the video (
hbrother: ), there really isn't anything to get your knickers in a bunch over . . .
. . . . besides, it makes you walk funny!
1. The video shows a surprising (to those of us that only hear about cave diving) lack of the skills we would expect.
2. The lack of skills were coupled to an instructor of whom the first thought is, "No way!"
3. Jill's email explained it -
. . . so, she let the people start and experience the requirements -- and helps them understand if their skills are not up to snuff.
4. Experienced Ginnie divers explain the impact of Ginnie flow on new divers - sounds like that is the way it is.
So, except for a few people that take the implied criticism personally on Jill's behalf (whereas she does not), and a few people who think they know requirements better than the instructor in the video (
hbrother: ), there really isn't anything to get your knickers in a bunch over . . . . . . . besides, it makes you walk funny!
I have never personally met Jill, so I only have had contact through more remote means. When I bought her text on cave diving, she did sign it for me. My better contact, though, came when I was writing an education article in which I made an analogy to cave diving. I sent an email via her web site to ask if it would be possible to use a picture in the article. She responded immediately from the Bahamas and sent me two great shots she had taken that day. I also know her reputation in general, which is pretty stellar. Thus, when someone takes an anonymous and unexplained shot at her teaching ability (I am talking about Moonglow, not the OP), I expect something more than that anonymous and unexplained slur.
I would expect the same even if it were not someone with Jill's reputation. If an instructor is going to call out another instructor by name and call her actions inexcusable, then I believe that instructor should have the courage to state her own name and specify what is being done wrong.
ucfdiver
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I know nothing about you, your instructing ability, or the quality of your personal diving. Perhaps you are the best cave instructor to ever grace the planet, but...
IMHO 250 dives is a very small number of cave dives for a cave instructor. I know lots of divers who do over 100 long cave dives per year. With the short dives that instructors do, I would expect anyone who has been at it for more than a couple of years to have accumulated many times what you claim.
Just sayin.
ucfdiver
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LiteHedded
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Moonglow's profile indicates she is a woman and a NAUI instructor. It does not specify that she is a NAUI cave instructor. Her cave qualifications are not mentioned.
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