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MoonWrasse:
Funny, I was just watching the "Grapes of Wrath" last night. The young Henry Fonda stars in it.
That's the movie that coined the phrase by Ma: "The son has riz, and the son has set, but here were are in Texas yet," I think. True, they were driving a 1930s car on bad roads, but they were crossing the Panhandle.

Interesting how so many focus on the morality of the little people when the large corps will be stealing blind from us in the comming bonanza in Katrina's wake.
Huh...? :confused:
 
DandyDon:
That's the movie that coined the phrase by Ma: "The son has riz, and the son has set, but here were are in Texas yet," I think. True, they were driving a 1930s car on bad roads, but they were crossing the Panhandle.


Huh...? :confused:
It wasn't a personal attack. Just a general observation.
 
MoonWrasse:
It wasn't a personal attack. Just a general observation.
Oh, I didn't take it that way at all - doubt that anyone would. I just missed the morality connection?

I suppose there is some connection between responsibilities and moralities.
 
One of the things that GWB did to curtail the huge bills associated with Davis-Bacon jobs is somehow by pass it for recovery efforts. The unions blew a gasket. I think it's a great thing. Where is "prevailing wage" for a unskilled laborer $58/hr? Out new fire station that I could have built for $200K cost 1.3 Mill due to Davis-Bacon.

I was predicting that people who were left homeless and got debit cards would be walking out of Wal Mart with I pods and hundred dollar sunglasses. Whaqt are you going to do? Can't punnish all for some idiots indiscressions.
 
Keep your eyes peeled over there!

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1577753,00.html

Armed and dangerous - Flipper the firing dolphin let loose by Katrina

by Mark Townsend Houston
Sunday September 25, 2005
The Observer


It may be the oddest tale to emerge from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Armed dolphins, trained by the US military to shoot terrorists and pinpoint spies underwater, may be missing in the Gulf of Mexico.
Experts who have studied the US navy's cetacean training exercises claim the 36 mammals could be carrying 'toxic dart' guns. Divers and surfers risk attack, they claim, from a species considered to be among the planet's smartest. The US navy admits it has been training dolphins for military purposes, but has refused to confirm that any are missing.

Dolphins have been trained in attack-and-kill missions since the Cold War. The US Atlantic bottlenose dolphins have apparently been taught to shoot terrorists attacking military vessels. Their coastal compound was breached during the storm, sweeping them out to sea. But those who have studied the controversial use of dolphins in the US defence programme claim it is vital they are caught quickly.

Leo Sheridan, 72, a respected accident investigator who has worked for government and industry, said he had received intelligence from sources close to the US government's marine fisheries service confirming dolphins had escaped.

'My concern is that they have learnt to shoot at divers in wetsuits who have simulated terrorists in exercises. If divers or windsurfers are mistaken for a spy or suicide bomber and if equipped with special harnesses carrying toxic darts, they could fire,' he said. 'The darts are designed to put the target to sleep so they can be interrogated later, but what happens if the victim is not found for hours?'

Usually dolphins were controlled via signals transmitted through a neck harness. 'The question is, were these dolphins made secure before Katrina struck?' said Sheridan.

The mystery surfaced when a separate group of dolphins was washed from a commercial oceanarium on the Mississippi coast during Katrina. Eight were found with the navy's help, but the dolphins were not returned until US navy scientists had examined them.

Sheridan is convinced the scientists were keen to ensure the dolphins were not the navy's, understood to be kept in training ponds in a sound in Louisiana, close to Lake Pontchartrain, whose waters devastated New Orleans.

The navy launched the classified Cetacean Intelligence Mission in San Diego in 1989, where dolphins, fitted with harnesses and small electrodes planted under their skin, were taught to patrol and protect Trident submarines in harbour and stationary warships at sea.

Criticism from animal rights groups ensured the use of dolphins became more secretive. But the project gained impetus after the Yemen terror attack on the USS Cole in 2000. Dolphins have also been used to detect mines near an Iraqi port.
 
This is a joke, right...?! :11:

I know we are talking about the Navy, but I would at least hope that the dolphins were not armed when the storm hit. :14:
 
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