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Lion Air flight JT610 crashes into sea after take-off from Jakarta...

Discussion in 'Indonesia' started by Fibonacci, Oct 28, 2018.

  1. Altamira

    Altamira ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    The pitot static system provide information on the aircraft's indicated airspeed vs ground speed as @BRT stated above. The indicated airspeed is absolutely critical for safe aircraft operation since that speed determines such things as takeoff and takeoff rejection decisions, rotation speed, speeds relating to maximum deployment of flaps and landing gear, as well as approach/landing speeds. That is why modern commercial and military aircraft have redundant pitot/static systems.
     
  2. Dogbowl

    Dogbowl Loggerhead Turtle

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    You cannot. You can only hope for the best.
     
  3. scubafanatic

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    You should read the most recent edition of Consumer Reports, they condemned the MAX 8 with respect to space and comfort vs the prior version, squeezing in more (smaller) seats and seat spacing, bathrooms too small for average person to actually fit into....and this was Before the Lion Air crash...I'll bet they do an advisory to stay the heck away from the Max 8 if possible!
     
  4. scubafanatic

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    Thanks for the clarification. I still think, given the involvement of issues with pitot tubes being responsible for many major air disasters over the years, there's GOT to be a better way!
     
  5. BRT

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    I'm guessing that they would love to have a better way, but it isn't that simple to measure wind speed from a few MPH up to 500 MPH. The only other way I could think of would be a little propeller, and that would have wear/damage issues.
     
  6. Diving Dubai

    Diving Dubai Instructor, Scuba

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    Fit out size - seat pitch bathrooms/galleys etc are all at the whim of the operator and what they specify rather than being design specific
     
  7. BRT

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    Boeing makes this clear when you tour their factory. The buyer decides the seat spacing and type.
     
  8. Dan_T

    Dan_T Great White

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    Indonesia Ends Lion Air Victims' Search as Black Box Ping Fades
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-jet-s-cockpit-voice-recorder-is-disappearing

    2 weeks have passed since the accident. Apparently the airplane debris sank into muddy bottom. It was pretty lucky for the diver to find the flight data recorder buried under half meter of mud. Now the pings of the cockpit voice recorder is becoming weaker, it'll a lot tougher for the divers to locate it.
     
  9. scubafanatic

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    One wonders how long a list of other hidden (so far anyway) software/hardware bugs remain, awaiting enough of a body count to accumulate to justify 'fixes', and how long an informed flyer should wait before exposing his/herself/family to a version 1.0 airplane, or to a major revision of an airplane type ?
     
  10. Diving Dubai

    Diving Dubai Instructor, Scuba

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    By regulation they are required to have minimum of 28 days battery life to the pinger
     

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