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Long hose without can light

Discussion in 'Hogarthian Diving' started by Compressor, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. wheeledgoat

    wheeledgoat Nassau Grouper

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    thanks for bringing this up - if you're clipping off a 7' hose at your hip, the hose slack between the reg and the clip is still going to be longer than your arm - a clip in that location would not delay your ability to donate. and once everybody's breathing and you need the full 7' to go single file, you easily have a moment to reach down and unclip.

    don't mean to argue DIR principles, clearly I'm not well versed - just applying a bit of what I consider to be common sense. Greatly appreciate and value all opinions shared!
     
  2. sea_otter

    sea_otter DIR Practitioner

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    Ahh... I did not get the fact that you were suggesting having it on your right hip. Generally you won't have a D ring there, and I definitely wouldn't want an extra snag point. Certainly not one like that little yellow thing.

    Stuffing the hose in your waist band or looping around a battery, stick, pocket, knife, whatever is a bit more streamlined approach. Some will also use slightly shorter 5 foot hoses for rec diving so there's no need for it to go around your hip area.

    Common sense and asking "why" is always a good thing!!
     
  3. Lorenzoid

    Lorenzoid idling in neutral buoyancy

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    I agree. I just tossed out some things that occurred to me off the cuff.

    That said, one could argue--and who doesn't like arguing?--that the delrin rod is a lot more robust than an item that looks to me like a combination of a carabiner and hose clip because it has no moving or flexing parts. Between the delrin rod and this item, I think the delrin rod would win. But the real winner is probably the suggestion to just tuck the excess in one's waist belt. That's what my instructor suggested when I was not using a can light. The simplest solution gets extra points.
     
  4. wheeledgoat

    wheeledgoat Nassau Grouper

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    Again, greatly appreciate the input! Hope I didn't ruffle any feathers asking stupid questions. I like the idea of DIR/Hogarthian setups, so long as it makes sense to me.

    I'm putting together my daughter and my first regs this week and we're going with the 7' main and necklaced octo. While our Ranger LTD bcds do indeed have low-enough d-rings to clip at the hip, this thread has me reconsidering.
     
  5. divad

    divad Solo Diver

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    I am totally against arguing.
     
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  6. sea_otter

    sea_otter DIR Practitioner

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    That makes me want to argue with you. :wink:
     
  7. divad

    divad Solo Diver

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    You'll get no argument here.
     
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  8. Lorenzoid

    Lorenzoid idling in neutral buoyancy

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    Then we are in vehement agreement. Let's agree to agree.

    (I totally stole that bit from someone else.)
     
  9. divad

    divad Solo Diver

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    I think you should stuff it......................................................................if you're not using a canister.
     
  10. Compressor

    Compressor ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Perfect. That's the purpose of a discussion; things are questioned when its not obvious and one learns the answers.

    Appropriate question asked. good discussion below.

    Interesting how some stuff is Hogarthian but not necessarily GUE followed.
     

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