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MaxAir Swim Fins - Stay Down Longer with Less Effort

Discussion in 'Classifieds: Other Gear & Multiple Items' started by TECreation, Nov 21, 2015.

  1. Chilly_Diver

    Chilly_Diver Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Dublin
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    People in Jet fins are loosing in underwater tug o war contests, duh...
     
  2. scubadada

    scubadada Diver Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Philadelphia and Boynton Beach
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    I'm not sure I would lose a tug o war in my XTs, and they sure can frog kick :)
     
  3. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Manassas, VA
    9,688
    5,490
    As long as I can wear my freediving fins, I'll take you on. Flutter or frog. :wink:
     
  4. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New Jersey
    7,401
    4,721
    As long as I’m wearing my Forcefins and my DPV, I’ll take on the both of you simultaneously :)
     
  5. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Orlando FL
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    Diver fatigue and overall enjoyment.
     
  6. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: New Jersey
    7,401
    4,721
    So the fins don't address a specific problem? Just an overall sense of well-being. Good luck. I work in a LDS part-time and that would be a tough sell.
     
  7. Shotmaster

    Shotmaster Contributor

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Melbourne, Fl
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    Guys, Dave has come up with a sound hydrodynamic technology for diver propulsion which in my personal tests Dave's fins out performs all the fins I have used, which is quite a few sets over 40 years. Every year new fins come out, but with no real measurable improvement or change in technology. This is a real change in propulsion technology. He is looking for people to test the fins and provide feedback. His efforts to date from what I know, have been to test the science, and work on building more durable prototypes for more exhaustive testing and pre-production sales samples. Like any startup business, funding is always needed. Dave is working to mature and refine the design for future production. He is not quite there yet, but is getting closer, I would like to point out that when working with pocket money it takes longer. Even If the design was perfect and ready for production, the molding tooling is high dollar ($75k-$125k) per size. This is not chump change. Dave is exploring all avenues from working with an OEM dive manufacturer to crowd funding possibilities. I wish him success, as having started and run a business myself I know the challenges well. I was impressed with the performance enough to introduce Dave to my old military unit R&D guys at our dive school and plan to introduce him to some Navy contacts as I believe this technology has real potential. Especially since combat divers don't just float around, do drift dives, or frog kick around in caves, but actually swim for miles dragging dry bags full of equipment. Their workload is much greater than rec diving. I interface with combat divers, rescue and EOD divers as part of my job. They almost exclusively use jet fins, with the rare exception of a few Navy divers using Force Fins now. If Force fins really offered something significant they would easily displace Jet fins in the military, who have dedicated people who constantly work at providing our guys with an edge. Dave's fins are more efficient, and reduce workload at the same speed. They produce more thrust than anything I have ever used. If you want to see something different all you have to do is take him up and get involved. I'm sure he would welcome it.
     
  8. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Orlando FL
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    As stated before these solve the fatigue problem. Less energy expended, less stress on the joints, all the ability fight a current if need be, ability to explore off track and return unwinded. All this has been solidly proven (although not accepted) and results in that great sense of well being. Refreshed at the end of the day rather than worn out.
     
  9. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Manassas, VA
    9,688
    5,490
    I'd still like to see how they compare to a decent pair of freediving fins. If they actually generate more thrust than freediving fins, then that is something. If they are "about the same", then the cost and the (apparent) deficiency in frog kicking and back kicking would definitely not outweigh the benefit of non-silting flutter kicks. There are plenty of other ways to kick without stirring up silt.
     
  10. TECreation

    TECreation ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Orlando FL
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    24
    Thanks for the plug Chris. Once I get a good supply of fins I will get you a pair again.

    For those of you who have just tuned in. Shotmaster was someone I met here on the board a couple of years ago. He wanted to tell me, "Your baby is ugly." but changed his tune after trying them and has been a friend since.
     

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