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New wing - totally over-thinking this!

Discussion in 'Hogarthian Diving' started by Aloha Joe, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Aloha Joe

    Aloha Joe Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Honolulu, HI
    Disclaimer: I'm totally new, this is my first set of scuba gear, and putting together a custom rig from several different suppliers has wore me out a little :)

    I ordered a wing from Sub-Gravity - their site advertised Cordura material and metal inflator buttons. They sent me the 'Lite' version which is 1000 Cordura and plastic inflator buttons. I emailed and asked about it, and they responded by shipping out a replacement. I opened the box and see the replacement is made in 2014 (has been 'sitting in a warehouse'). I was then told the website is outdated, and the Lite version and the one I got are both discontinued, with the current version being somewhere in the middle (plastic buttons, lighter than Cordura 2000). I thought the heavier material might be better for protection, but I don't like that it's 3+ years old. The metal buttons do make the inflator a bit heavier and it might be nice to not have it floating around. From the looks of it, the 'Lite' version I got is basically the same construction as the Halcyon Eclipse which makes me feel a little better.

    My question: which would you keep? Is it that big of a difference, and do I need to 'baby' my rig so the bladder doesn't get damaged?
  2. divad

    divad ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Sponsor

    I would keep the "lite" version for the greater suppleness vs the heavy version. If you were in a fight, would you want to just stand there and take it until something tore or broke, or would you prefer to "float like a butterfly?"
  3. CrumhornDiver

    CrumhornDiver Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Arlington, Virginia
    On the age of the wings, I wouldn't worry about it. As long as there are no defects, storing it shouldn't affect performance. Lots of more experienced diver here on SB suggest buying used wings to start anyway.
  4. kensuf

    kensuf ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Sponsor

    I wouldn't worry about it as long as it's holding air and no plastic parts appear to be UV damaged (dry/cracking/discolored).
  5. rjgiddings

    rjgiddings Contributor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Seattle
    The stainless steel inflator buttons wont change the buoyancy characteristics of the wing - they're too small for that - but they should be able to handle, say, dive gear being put on them without cracking. I would want something metal.

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  6. Aloha Joe

    Aloha Joe Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Honolulu, HI
    You would be surprised, this new inflator weighs a ton!
  7. USMC CPL.

    USMC CPL. Contributor

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Lake Havasu city
    I have ss on my inflator and it still floats.
  8. Aloha Joe

    Aloha Joe Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Honolulu, HI
    The plastic inflator was always floating off in space when I used it last week. Today I dove with the new wing (heavier material) and the inflator was definitely weighted and easier to find near my shoulder.

    Thanks for the help - I wasn't thrilled seeing the older sticker on this wing at first, but now I'm really happy with it. I think it will better withstand handling/transportation.
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  9. Norwegian Cave Diver

    Norwegian Cave Diver ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
    Buy the halcyon. Fantastic quality gear.
  10. rddvet

    rddvet DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Florida
    I wouldn't be happy paying full retail for an older model wing that I ordered expect an up,to date product. The wing will be fine. It's possible the orings in the inflators could go bad sitting for a few years, but unlikely. The reason I wouldn't be happy is it may affect your resale.

    I bought a halcyon wing from a retailer that had sat in the shop for two years. I got a discount for buying old stock. I sold the wing and it went for less than the same wing that had a newer production date even though they both had the same amount of dives on them.

    I would ask for a partial refund, send it back, or just live with it.

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