Panny 7x14 or Oly 9x18 m4/3?

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Phil thanks for the link, that pretty much sums it up.

Looks like the port is a must for WA shots. The next question is which lens to get because the pan 7-18 might be a better choice.

I'm not sure its a must. Its a definite improvement and probably worth the money if you have it. Right now i have an EPL2 and with the stock port and the 9-18 zuiko. I've only had a chance to go diving once in it, in completely unideal situation (2 meter vis, high current). Still get much wider view than my previous P&S (S90), and the picture is clear enough for my usage (email, web postings).

I can't easily get a zen port for where I am at, otherwise i would. I do plan on getting one eventually, but in the mean time I think i'm gonna play around with the stock port. So, its not a must in the sense that it will work, albeit at a sub optimal, non pro level.
 
Here's some pics with Oly E-PL1, Panny 7-14mm lens and Zen dome on PT-EP01, INON D-2000, INON S-2000, and Big Blue focus light taken on 9APR11. I really like this light and it was only $139 from Reef Photo. My D-2000 came with two adhesive backed red filters to use on its focus light, so one of them is on the Big Blue.

Vis was approx 20' where other divers hadn't been, otherwise it was 15'.

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Phil thanks for the link, that pretty much sums it up.

Looks like the port is a must for WA shots. The next question is which lens to get because the pan 7-18 might be a better choice.

You should be able to find an answer to your question in this thread - http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/olympus-outlet/372514-panny-7x14-oly-9x18-m4-3-a.html :wink:

I've got the Zen / 7-14 and am very happy with them. Still getting better at WA but love the setup!
 
Hey guys, all of the info above has been very helpful.

I am picking up my new E-PL2 Oly housing PT-EP03 rig tomorrow and I was wondering what the wide angle options are for the stock port. They state on line that the current port fits the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 9-18mm 1:4.0-5.6.

Has anyone tried this set up before or know of anyone that has? I am looking to avoid the extra cost of adding another port so it would be good to know how others have used this set up.

Thanks,
Lee

Remember that Olympus does not make the Panasonic 7-14mm or 8mm fisheye lens, so they can't be expected to be extremely helpful about it. They only tell you their 14-42 and 9-18 will fit their standard port, which is fact, they do fit and they do work. But the 9-18 will work a lot better in a dome port. Olympus does not sell a dome port for M43 lenses, so they don't tell you the many advantages of a dome. But you should know that a properly designed dome will give you both a wider field of view and sharper edges, and a dome becomes more necessary as you go to wider angles.

That is why Zen, Athena and 10bar make dome ports for the M43 lenses -- and they sell well because the domes really help widen the field and sharpen edges. One critical thing about the design of a dome is to place the nodal point of the lens coincident with the nodal point of the dome, if possible. Doing so keeps the focus the same in center as at edges, for a sharper image overall. That means the the optimal dome for a given lens may have a different length than one for a different lens with a different nodal point. For this reason Zen offers two different dome ports for the 9-18 and 7-14 lenses -- those two lenses have very different nodal points so need different length domes. So you might be able to physically use the 7-14 lens with a 9-18 dome, but might not work ideally. You probably need unique dome ports for optimal performance with ultra wide lenses. The 14-42 and 9-18 seem to work well sharing the 9-18mm Zen dome however, so Zen recommends the same dome for both, and that makes it a bargain among dome ports.

The Panasonic 8mm is a special case. This tiny lens needing a very short port body but a true hemispherical dome --- because it's field of view diagonally is 180 degrees and all points on the surface of the dome should be equidistant from the lens nodal point. To keep costs down, the dome is made small, with say a 2.5 inch radius. Still, an optical grade dome port for the 8mm lens from Zen or 10bar is expensive, about $800, which is 60% more than others cost.

Some say the 7-14 could benefit from a more hemispherical dome at 7mm too. If you read the post by Wisnu preceding, he comments that he might need the hemi dome instead of what he was using, to sharpen focus at edges at 7mm. Stopping down will help some.
 
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Well stated Slowhands...

It does not look to me that the images were shot at 7mm...as that bass would have been virtually touching the dome, or it would have been almost too small to see.

I have great difficulty finding a good image in bad vis with the 7mm setting...as at 3 feet, a person looks small. 10 to 14 seem to work a lot better.
 
Bass pic above: f/8, 1/160 sec, iso 200, 7mm.
Kong head pic: f/8, 1/125 sec, iso 200, 7mm.
All of the ones I posted on April 11 were taken on Apr 9th, and my panny was set at 7mm. Yes, I was very close to stuff.
 
One critical thing about the design of a dome is to place the nodal point of the lens coincident with the nodal point of the dome, if possible. Doing so keeps the focus the same in center as at edges, for a sharper image overall. That means the the optimal dome for a given lens may have a different length than one for a different lens with a different nodal point.

There have been epic arguments on the web about whether the front nodal point or entrance aperture should be at the center of the dome.

My experience in designing an adapter to use an Aquatica dome with a Zuiko 8mm fisheye on an EP1 is that centering the dome on the front nodal point is fine (and a lot easier to measure), and I haven't seen any soft corners.
 
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