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Renew PADI EFR or Red Cross?

Discussion in 'Going Pro' started by ntmainstrm, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. ntmainstrm

    ntmainstrm Divemaster

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    Hi all,
    Finishing my DMC and EFR cert has run out. Having trouble finding if PADI offers renew. Do you like PADI or Red Cross for this cert?
     
  2. Rogersea

    Rogersea Dive Shop

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    ntmainstrm,

    1. PADI does offer renewals, due to updated ciriculum, I think you will soon need a new book if you dont get it done soon.


    2. If you are not going on to become a SCUBA Instructor and you have both EFR and Red Cross, I would recommend Renewing w/Red Cross. I would also ask them to include the O2 Provider portion of the course.....

    Cheers,
    Roger
     
  3. HowardE

    HowardE Diver ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: Boca Raton, Florida
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    Essentially, basic first aid and EFR courses are similar. Most recommend refresher (re-doing the course) every 2 years. The difference may only be price. If you're becoming a divemaster, is the shop you're doing it through offering a rescue diver course? Sit in on one of those if you can and do the EFR that way. You could probably save money, and you'll fulfill the requirements.
     
  4. Hawkwood

    Hawkwood MSDT ScubaBoard Supporter

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    If it has "run out", you don't have the option to "renew". You have to do the complete course again. This goes for EFR or for Red Cross.
     
  5. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
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    EFR & St. John Ambulance (Canada's version of Red Cross I think) differ (in my experience) in that the SJA covered a whole lot more stuff --beginning with bandaging). Neither had any kind of a written test to speak of. A lot of "trust" that you understand the stuff. I study both books fairly often. I am very opinionated on this topic and how things should change, but generally feel there isn't much difference IMO.
     
  6. cgvmer

    cgvmer Divemaster Candidate

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: New Jersey
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    Is there a requirement to teach EFR if you are an instructor? I work with my son who happens to be a RC Lifeguard/CPR/1staid/O2 instructor. I just started my DM and was thinking of going Instructor.
     
  7. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
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    Our shop only holds EFR courses maybe twice a year, and I believe the owner teaches it quite often. Since there about 14 instructors on staff, there would never be the opportunity for a whole bunch of them to teach it anyway. Some instructors take the EFR Instructor course just so they don't have to take EFR every 2 years. But I wouldn't think there is any requirement for an instructor to teach anything at all.
     
  8. WheelsUSN

    WheelsUSN IDC Staff Instructor

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    In order to take your IE you do have to be either an EFR instructor or a CPR/First Aid instructor with another agency. I chose to become a Red Cross instructor because it was less expensive and easier to market the classes to non-divers.
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2012
  9. Rogersea

    Rogersea Dive Shop

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    If you are contemplating going on the become a PADI Instructor, then I believe sticking with EFR is preferable. I believe this because it makes it easier to teach for certain shops who offer EFR as part of the Rescue course.. Of course either course Red Cross or EFR when done well gives the students what they need.

    Cheers,
    Roger
     
  10. WheelsUSN

    WheelsUSN IDC Staff Instructor

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    I plan on also becoming an EFR instructor. It was actually cheaper to become a Red Cross instructor and then cross over as an EFR instructor than it was to become an EFR instructor, at least in my local area. So I will be an instructor for both agencies and have the flexibility to teach either program. By the way I can also bundle the Red Cross course with the Rescue course after I complete my IE.
     

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