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Respect for Marine Life - what were you thinking?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba Discussions' started by AquaDuck, Jun 25, 2006.

  1. AquaDuck

    AquaDuck Angel Fish

    We're still getting to know the local dive spots in the area and accompanied a few local divers last weekend on a dive to explore one of the beautiful little coves down at Laguna Beach, CA. To my astonishment one of the divers came up to me with an outstretched hand holding out a beautiful Warty Sea Cucumber to show me. I ended up taking the creature and returned it to a nicely protected spot on the bottom, only to find the same guy prying off a sea urchin with his knife to feed to the fish a few minutes later.

    In this case we realise that the diver in question is a fairly newly certified student who is completing his AOW at the moment (which in some ways alarms me even more,) and also realise that the role models this guys has been presented with thus far in his diving career have not exactly been A Grade material so we feel that a little bit of retraining on a social level is necessary to get him to realize how his actions can severely contribute to the damage impact divers have on dive sites. Ignorence and indifference IMHO can be seen as one of the greatest dangers divers bring to the marine environment.

    What do you guys think about physically handling marine life? Are there justified circumstances in your opinion? When, why? What do you do when you notice someone disturb some critter on your dive? How many Instructors here teach their students to respect all creatures and keep their hands off?

    It's a phenomenon that I have noticed amongst divers in South Africa also so it's not just here in the US that this happens, I'm just curious to know what arguments other divers take in justifying the right to disturb or protect. Give 'em to me! :D
  2. scubadobadoo

    scubadobadoo Loggerhead Turtle

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: SoCal
    It happens. I don't like it.

    I have a nice photos series of a DM breaking coral chunks with his arm in an attempt to wrestle a fish from under a coral head. This same DM bumped a sea horse several times in an attemp to get it to move.

    At Ginnie Springs a guy I just met decided to take his knife out and carve his intitials into the rock inside a cavern.

    I have watched several DM's grab puffer fish and annoy them to the point of puffing up.

    The list goes on and on and on. SO, what do you do? It's hard to do something when you are a newer diver and visiting a far away place. Some options include asking him not to do that please, refuse to dive with this person or DM, complain to the boss, don't tip, and take a photo (or a whole series of photos) and send it to the local authorities with their name on it.
  3. rawls

    rawls Instructor, Scuba

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: North Carolina
    In NC you get in BIG trouble breaking off coral...yes, we have corals in NC:). You even get in BIG trouble taking a piece of coral that has broken off. No way you can prove that you didn't break it off. If I see it...Like scubadoobado wrote...If I have my camera I will try to take a pic of it. I don't ask them not to do it again I will turn them in in a heartbeat...unless, perhaps, you have a new diver who doesn't know any better...These and other creatures have a right to be left alone. I just don't have much tolerance for things like this...
  4. skinnydogdives

    skinnydogdives Angel Fish

    i'm with you on that rawls. over here we only have soft coral and very little of it
    when i'm leading dives i will always warn people about it.and have been known to give a tounge lashing to people who interfer with it. we have a lot of spider crabs where i dive and i've seen people turn them upside down and spin them just for fun. there are just some people who dont know any better.
    I think its our job as dive professionals to educate them so that the place we all love to go will remain vibrant for those who follow
  5. Amy B

    Amy B Photographer

    In general, I really don't agree with people touching marine life. It did seem exciting on my first ocean dive when someone picked up a crab to show us - but he put it right back where he picked it up from. On one dive, someone smashed an urchin open so the fish could feed off it (I didn't see it happen). At the time it was nice to see the fish in a feeding frenzy (VERY large ballan wrasse) - but on the surface, when I realsied it had been done on purpose, it made me feel sick. I do pick up the occasional mollusc (e.g. the odd topshell) to see if there's a hermit crab inside (if it's not obvious) but always very gently, and I put them back exactly where I got them from.

    Unnecessary handling of marine animals is unfair, and potentially dangerous. Not all species are harmless - perhaps a good point to mention to new divers who pick up anything and everything in sight??
  6. meekal

    meekal Manta Ray

  7. skinnydogdives

    skinnydogdives Angel Fish

    he really should have known better
    lets hope this is a lesson to others should be included in training . they may look cute but then so dose a lion cub you wouldn't go waving your fingers in front of one of those would you
  8. Far_X

    Far_X Solo Diver

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Redmond, WA
    Being a new diver does not make you unaware of what is right and what is wrong. You have a sense of right and wrong and if it makes you feel like you do then you should say something. However, the world is full of jerks and for some, it makes no difference whether you say something or not. However, there are some who don't know any different and may think and act differently if you explain how their actions made you feel. Some of the divers I dive with catch fish to take home and eat. I have no problem with that - I don't do it. I don't like them breaking a mussel to feed the other fish and tell them - how long does it take a starfish to prise open a mussel? It shouldn't be that easy to eat a mussel. I know for the aquarium I have gone into the seas to catch exhibits and yes we pick them up take them out of the water. It is not somehing that I enjoy doing but I would rather I did it and make sure I am careful when I do it than to have some jock do it who doesn't give a damn about the animals he is collecting. Anyway, to summarise, yes, say something even though he may have 2000+ dives. it doesn't make him/her automatically in the right. :)
  9. Guba

    Guba Regular of the Pub

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: North Central Texas
    sigh...here we go again.

    I don't touch...anywhere. I was a backpacker and camper long before I was a diver, but the same rules apply. Watch. Take pictures (as the subject lies...you want to maneuver for a better shot, fine. But don't try to get the SUBJECT to move into a better position. That's cheating.). Follow if you have to, but don't stress the life forms. Remember that you're VISITING a wild place, and you're the interloper, so be a good guest.
    I just have to wonder about folks who feel compelled to handle the denizens of wild areas. Would you go over to a stranger's house and automatically reach out to touch his/her dog? Not only is it imprudent (that dog might very well not want to be handled by a stranger and will let you know in no uncertain terms--with its teeth), it's also downright against the basic tenets of responsibility and etiquette. How is that any different in the wild? It's not our home, so be a polite guest.
  10. FL_DVLover

    FL_DVLover Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Deltona, FL
    I earned by OW last year in Sanford, FL which is near Orlando. My dive instructor there told us the story about Randy's finger as an example to not touch or harass the sea life. I know that NAUI teaches "hands off" and I am sure the other agencies must do the same. So far, I have been lucky not to dive with anyone that has acted so irresponsibly. I think if I do, I will probably have to say something about it.

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