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Smoking Protocols on Dive Boats?

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by DandyDon, Apr 2, 2004.

  1. BCSGratefulDiver

    BCSGratefulDiver Mental toss flycoon ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Say, aren't you the same fella who told us not too long ago about the time you tossed someone's rig overboard because you decided he was too drunk to dive?

    Hmmm ... methinks I detect a bit of inconsistency in your logic. Or are those troll alarms I'm hearin' ... :eyebrow:

    ... Bob (Grateful Diver)

     
  2. Lead_carrier

    Lead_carrier Instructor, Scuba

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    and that is my choice. I hate smoking in a restaurant and I refuse to do it, if I wanted to eat smoke I would have stayed a firefighter. I personally wish all eating establisments were none smoking by the owners choice, not the governments.

    If I'm on a boat and my smoking bothers someone and they politely ask me to stop, I'll put it out immeadiately. If they demand I quit, well, that's a different story. Most of the smokers that I know will be more than happy to refrain from smoking as long as the request is made in a civilized manner. By the same token, us smokers should be civilized also.
     
  3. MgicTwnger

    MgicTwnger Contributor

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    Couldn't have said it better myself. Mutual respect is the key here, IMHO.
     
  4. GeekDiver

    GeekDiver Contributor

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    Me, I don't smoke but I often notice that non-smokers go out of there way to punish smokers. I think as long as there trying to stay away, not in-your face, or in desiginated smoking area then I've got no complaint. If it aint desiginated as as non-smoking area then I say light up. Now light up at a gas pump or hang out in a doorway/walkway or a non-smokeing section and thats another story.

    Now I'm sure there are some who are a bit hyper sentisitive to smoke but I also think there are a lot more who just dislike the habit so much they will go to great lenghts to ensure no one can light up. I dislike people who are rude, il-mannered who feel they have a right to impose there self-importance on someone just because they smoke.

    I use smokeless tobacco (DIP) and I still get complaints from the PC crowd. It not like they can get second hand spit. If they do it serves them right for not asking before taking a swig of something that didn't belong to them.

    Don, your right they should have had a consistant smoking policy and it should be clearly posted. If it ain't posted No-Smoking then you should be able to light up. I wish the PC happy crowd would take up a better cause like happy hour drunk drivers or inapproiate cell phone use. (While driving, in a movie theater, etc etc..)
     
  5. DandyDon

    DandyDon Old men ought to be explorers ScubaBoard Supporter

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    38 SqFt-?! A lot less than that, to be sure. The problem I had on my example was that the some Militant-Nons took the very aft/rear 12 SqFt, then the other one insisted that everything in front of that was non-smoking. If they'd taken 38 SqFt each forward/front, the only way they could smell smoke would be if we had a tail wind faster than the boat - non happening.

    So many Militant Nons will see smoking and imagine that they smell it. Reasonable to react to them...?
     
  6. GQMedic

    GQMedic NAUI Instructor

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    Nope


     
  7. GQMedic

    GQMedic NAUI Instructor

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    I think you right!

    I should have put a book down my pants, I just know it.

    Can we make that diet sprite? I'm not really a big beer drinker. I used the "beer" comments for kicks -n- giggles.

     
  8. GQMedic

    GQMedic NAUI Instructor

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    Lead Carrier makes some good points. Courtesy goes a long way.

    However, if I have moved to a secluded portion of the boat, and light up, and I am approached by someone who's decided to invade my space then hassle me about my smoking, I feel annoyed, when pressed, I feel angry. These things don't foster in me any feelings of compliance, just the opposite, it makes me want to puff harder. I've heard the "maybe you should quit", and I reply "Hmm, I don't want to, maybe you should start". It just gets ugly from there. The harassment offends me so much, I want to be defiant, I want to light up one right after the other, just to make a statement. I can't and wont understand why so many non-smokers have to be so militant. I don't seek them out to smoke next to them, I seek solitude. Why is it they feel they must invade my space, invade into my "me time" and annoy the hell out of me? They want respect, but they refuse to give it.

    This will continue to be a hot issue for years to come, I think.
     
  9. Lead_carrier

    Lead_carrier Instructor, Scuba

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    Fortunately, it is very rare that I run into the "militant" non-smoker. Courtesy is the key to it all, on both sides. Us smokers should be considerate of the nonsmokers and the nonsmokers should do the same for us. The last time I was harrassed about smoking was my 1st DM instructor. He let me know real quick that if I was seen smoking by anyone in any of his classes that he would immeadiately fail me and I'd have to start the DM class from step one. I looked at him, said screw it and lit one in the classroom. Fortunately, the shop owner is a smoker and thought it was hilarous. I did apologize to everyone in the class at the time personally except the instructor. They thought it was funny too the way I quit.
     
  10. JeffG

    JeffG Solo Diver

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    It was Popeye that said/did that
     

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