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Snorkeling advice from the net!

Discussion in 'Snorkeling / Freediving' started by dcvf2, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. kelemvor

    kelemvor Big Fleshy Monster ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I dunno, he used spit pretty much like I do. He was wiping it around a bit much, probably because he was filming I guess? I usually can go a good hour with a spit-defogged mask (however long my dive lasts, snorkel or scuba).

    I also keep the snorkel in my mouth when snorkeling. It's just easier. Apnea/freediving may have its own rules, snorkeling is something most small children (3+) in my home state do without any training. It's not rocket surgery.
     
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  2. AfterDark

    AfterDark Solo Diver

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    @Kharon you point out something I missed, OP claims 0-24 dives and then there is this in @dcvf2 last post:

    I began in snorkeling in 1965, but before, I red a good book…to know…
    I’ve got 1* in scuba diving in November 1979. With the Belgian league Lifras
    I’ve got my first * in free diving May 2003. With the Belgian league Lifras apnea commission


    That's a long time scuba diving for just 0-24 dives something is not adding up here?
     
  3. kelemvor

    kelemvor Big Fleshy Monster ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Most likely he didn't change the pulldown for number of dives and left it at the default setting.
     
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  4. dcvf2

    dcvf2 Nassau Grouper

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    To avoid misunderstood, I think I should have defined the different ways to go snorkeling.
    And explain to which "snorkelers" the rules I'm talking about are meant


    The 3 first here below aren’t concerned by "the apneist's rule »

    1) surface snorkeler that never dive...of course ;-)

    2) snorkeler that dive to 10 feet to make a picture.

    3) snorkeler that dive to 30 feet to make a kind of "touch and go".

    4) snorkelers that dives below 30 feet or more and stays at least 1 minute or more at this depth ... (who do "these mistakes" because they have not taken appropriate courses) !


    I’m just thinking at this last category…that the comportment is nearly those of a free diver



    From Esprise ME
    « I don't know if there's a language barrier,..."


    "Barrier of language", in the first sense of the term yes, of course
    French from Belgium is my first language, Dutch is second, English is third.


    « Shallow water blackout due to low PP02 just isn't something a snorkeler, as opposed to a freediver, has to worry about. »
    OK only for the "snorkeler I defined as 4 above"



    From Kharon
    « You ain't going to convert anybody. «


    That’s evident …


    « Particularly someone with a ton more experience than you - 0-25 dives, so probably not a huge amount of snorkeling experience either. »

    :thumb: You forgot to read…#7
    I began in snorkeling in 1965, but before, I red a good book…to know…
    I’ve got my first * in free diving
    May 2003. With the Belgian league Lifras apnea commission


    Experience !
    38 year in snorkeling …type 4 during the 10 last year
    16 year in free diving ( AIDA 3* since 2015…I was young in this time …73)
    Not bad :wink:

    Sorry to have bothered the scuba divers

    That’s all folk ;-))
     
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  5. jadairiii

    jadairiii Solo Diver

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    I'm another that has always kept my snorkel in my mouth. And I have tried to convert but after 50 years of doing it one way, well, I think I will stay with it.

    And, I do know not to exhale on the way up due to SWBO. But I also dont push the limits, I am never looking to set a depth or time record and I have no interest in going "deep" just to go deep. I am very comfortable in free-diving in 40' and shallower, been deeper but, if I cant hang out, see stuff or "work" at depth, then way do it. Going down a line to "punch a ticket" holds no interest for me..
    My current beach diving vehicle!
    Dive vehicle.JPG
     
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  6. dcvf2

    dcvf2 Nassau Grouper

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    From jadairiii # 15
    « I’m another that has always kept my snorkel in my mouth. And I have tried to convert but after 50 years of doing it one way, well, I think I will stay with it. »
    As I wrote in red at #7… after this severe warning in my throat between 65 and 78,8 feet, I took the good decision.
    I was 62 …never to late...to old to do well !
    By knowing the risks ....for "snorkeler type 4"

    « And, I do know not to exhale on the way up due to SWBO. »
    VERY WELL …how did you learn that?

    « But I also don't push the limits, I am never looking to set a depth or time record and I have no interest in going "deep" just to go deep. »
    You are a "wise" especially if you practice alone.
    Same for me, except during the AIDA training :
    - at the swim pool controlled by an Free diving instructor… « Static » max time 4min15s long time ago…recently 3min 30.
    - in flooded stone quarry always controlled by an Free diving instructor…in CW max -24m (78,8 feet) to get My « 3 * »

    « I am very comfortable in free-diving in 40' … »
    It’s generally at that deep I film.
    e.g. : Mantas in Raja Ampat Indonesia…at 7 min 35 (choose 1080p please)
    Indonésie Kri n°1 2017
    =>

    « Going down a line to "punch a ticket" holds no interest for me.. »
    Same for me, but if you succeed it gives you more insurance …to film in my case
    e.g. last year in red Sea :
    - to film squids between 26 and 40 feet ( at 0 min 42) picture done by my wife as « Surface snorkeler »
    - and at the end of the film, a « touch and go » at 60 feet filmed in real time at 3 min 04 (Shaab Marsa Alam) (choose 1080p please)
    =>
    - and the assurance given by the training permits me to go thru a small cave (*) at (Zerib Kebir) at 3 min 59 filmed by my wife ( not in the cave !)
    (*)We will return in one month
    =>

    « My current beach diving vehicle! »
    Good equipment : long fins, mask low volume:thumb:
    Nice way to go to dive… when the sea isn't to far. Not possible in Belgium we must always take a plane.
    Do you take pictures or film?
    If yes can you show them us on this forum?

    I have almost the same vehicle but not to dive ... to go out club sports
    Scott S1 copie.png Scott S1 copie.png

    Last year, I rented on site a « Cannondale" to climb to an altitude of 6273 feet ... the "Mont Ventoux" located about 31 mile north of Marseille (southern France).
    Cannondale carbon copie.png
    With pedals of course !


    In the last bend before the top.
    Moi au Ventoux en septembre 2018 copie.png

    Happy at the top 1912 m …6273 feet, I was 76.
    At 1912 m .JPG

    The profil given by my GPS Garmin
    Ventoux 20180920 copie 2.png
     
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  7. jadairiii

    jadairiii Solo Diver

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    Started snorkeling when I was about 8 and was certified SCUBA at 15 in 1976. I would read everything I could, long before their were courses. You ask, you read, your learn.

    I dont "practice" per se. I swim Masters 3 days a week, about 3200 meters per one hour work out. That is the "practice" that keeps me in shape to dive.

    On occasion I bring a gopro with me. Shot this video when this little guy sneaked up behind me. He got so close that I had to hand paddle away so as not to touch him. He hung with me for quite a while, this is the edited version.

     
  8. dcvf2

    dcvf2 Nassau Grouper

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    You are the confirmation that swimmers become good free diver.

    Nice video…mamatee well filmed at 2:29

    The cousin of the manatee is the dugong, he only lives in salt water …here below at 0:28 and 3:39 , with my first video caméra (not HD only 720p) . Red sea retrospective from 2008 at Abu Dabbab
    (The warning introduction is just to joke ignore it)
    =>
     
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  9. kelemvor

    kelemvor Big Fleshy Monster ScubaBoard Supporter

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    That's what I was thinking. I don't know anyone personally who can dive for a minute or more when snorkeling. IMO, that's freediving rather than snorkeling.
     
  10. dcvf2

    dcvf2 Nassau Grouper

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    Hi

     

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