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SSI nitrox course

Discussion in 'SSI: Scuba Schools International' started by Jakkm, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. a878bob

    a878bob Barracuda

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    I have the admit as an active nitrox instructor for ssi, I don’t really know the answer to the op’s question.

    It has always been my habit to issue the 40% cert. there is indeed 4 sections to the book and online manuals. I have always taught all of it as I believe it is all relevant to anyone diving nitrox. The instructor manual does not make mention of nitrox 32 vs nitrox 40 that I can see. But there is the option in ordering the cert card for either one. It’s a question I will bring and will post when and if I can get an official answer.
     
  2. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    This is part of the scheme run by David Holt of Aquastrophics. You do not learn how to measure your oxygen percentage in an online class. You read about how to do it, but you get no practice and no feedback. Even worse is their OW class. They claim to provide all the book work you need to go to any agency (a "referral") and do the pool and open-water work. But no agency will accept their referral. Here is what PADI says:
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  3. Rooster59

    Rooster59 Solo Diver

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    This was how my SSI Nitrox class worked, about 2016 as well.
     
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  4. BackAfter30

    BackAfter30 Angel Fish

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    Like I said, my answer came out of the standard - STANDARDS_English-Metric_IM.pdf SSI Training Standards (2019 edition)
     
  5. a878bob

    a878bob Barracuda

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    That’s all well and good, but that certainly isn’t a clear answer, after being in the ssi system for 26 years and teaching half of that, there is always more to it, as I found this morning discussing it with Ssi.
     
  6. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    So, what did you find out?
     
  7. Dave Bevan

    Dave Bevan DIR Practitioner

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    They still offer both versions of the cert and an upgrade between. If you just want Nx32 (level 1) then its the first 3 academic sessions and a shorter exam. If you want 21-40 (level 2) then its all academic and the full exam. I think its probably focused on places that pump Nx32 as it can be taken combined with Open Water. You still pay for the full cert so later on you can upgrade to full Nitrox when you have had time to let everything settle in. I guess it just gives instructors more options. Like if someone is struggling with the maths they can review it at a later date. Personally I have only ever certified the full program.
     
  8. Dave Bevan

    Dave Bevan DIR Practitioner

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    I don't think that's the case at all. I mean should everyone be doing hypoxic trimix from the get go? If they are diving in a resort that only pumps 32% it gives a lower cost option where they can only use that. Whats the problem? Customer has more cash in the wallet and less headache. Some people probably just want to get in the water rather than spending time with their head in a book. Later if they want to do the full spec they can read the rest of the materials and finish the course. Plus its only an option not something they are trying to push on anyone. I genuinely can't see a problem. Certainly don't see the newer generation as fearful. That just sounds like stereotyping.
     
  9. TpaDiver

    TpaDiver Angel Fish

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    I completed the online portion for level 2 and went to the shop today for the written test and hands on skills with the tanks/meters. The test was only 25 questions. I'm curious which level card I will end up with.
     
  10. rick00001967

    rick00001967 Tech Instructor

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    this would seem to be correct. that is what the latest standards say. if you check the previous 2017 standards there is only the mention of the one course. i can only assume that they have decided to return to the older way of doing this and now offer the 2 levels again. i am curious why the change. i know SDI offers a simple computer nitrox course and you have to take the TDI course to get the full training. perhaps they are trying to offer a similar option. i would love to hear SSI's explanation as one of the posters previous stated he had spoke to them about this.
     

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