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Tec Diving BCD

Discussion in 'Technical Diving Specialties' started by Jason Hunter, Jul 30, 2019.

  1. Jeremy Williams

    Jeremy Williams Nassau Grouper

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    Perhaps I do read in more angst than is fair. The internet is a notoriously bad at communicating subtleties. I did post with my opinion because I think it is helpful to hear from someone who doesn’t prefer the continuous harness. And in this case that kinda like the ScubaPro wing. I’m actually out diving. Trying to upload a pic but it isn’t working. Will share later.
     

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  2. johndiver999

    johndiver999 Manta Ray

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    All this over a disagreement over what “standard” means? Anybody know how to say standard in Latin, maybe that would help.
     
  3. doctormike

    doctormike ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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  4. johndiver999

    johndiver999 Manta Ray

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  5. Jason Hunter

    Jason Hunter Angel Fish

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    I was just looking at the Apeks Gear today.
     
  6. Jason Hunter

    Jason Hunter Angel Fish

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    Thanks for all the info. It is the TecRec 40/45/50. Head down to a school in Vero Beach.

    You’ll have given me much to consider. I have been happy with my SP Rec gear but I figured there was other Tec Gear considerations.

    Thanks for the replies.
     
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  7. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board

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    I think it's "Hogarthius simplicitus"... :D :D :D
    Welcome to the Tech Forum. Lots of experience on ScubaBoard, and much of it is quite passionate. I actually love the back and forth between @JohnnyC and @loosenit2 because of their passion and their confidence. Both are right. Both are wrong. Yeah, they're starting to "play the man and not ball" a bit, but that's sometimes a part of the discussion in the Tech Forum. Experience means a lot to a diver, but it's not a fail safe by any means. There are some highly regarded divers that don't impress me in the water a bit.

    Personally, I have seen many, many tech divers that have not been in Hogarthian gear, so calling it a "standard" is a bit of a stretch. The purist in me finds their over-complicated set-ups to be disturbing. The innovator in me critically evaluates but still applauds the attempts. Unfortunately, I can't remember the last non-Hogarthian diver that ever impressed me as being fluid and competent in the water. Not many Hogarthian divers impress me either, but there are a few. It's still my opinion that back-mounted twin sets should be learned in a Hogarthian style kit. It should be the de-facto standard for many reasons. After you get a few hundred dives in that, then start modifying it to your tastes and develop your style. It's been a while since I've dove my slightly modified Hogarthian rig. I prefer side mount in the caves and Ocean based tech doesn't interest me much. There are some Hogarthian aspects to my SF2 rebreather, but don't be fooled: a rebreather is non-Hogarthian from the start.

    In any event, you'll want the blessing of your tech instructor on your gear choices. If you've chosen one, then they should help you to determine what kind of gear they want you in. They'll probably be fine with you showing up in Hogarthian kit, and I would be leery of them if they had much of an issue with that. You'll hear it called "DIR" or old school from time to time and that's OK. I endured lots of abuse since I adopted it around the turn of the century. It's solid. It's simple. It's robust. It's all you need for back-mount. I'm not sure why it upsets people so that we love it, but that seems to be the case. No, I'm not a DIR or GUE diver, though I've appeared in one of their promos. I don't even wear a BP&Wing as my single back mount solution any more, though it's so close to being one that many assume it is. In any event, even when it comes to tech diving, I'm still a Dive and let Dive kind of guy. Unless you ask my opinion about your non-standard setup, I'll keep my judgements to myself. However, if you do ask my opinion, don't get bent when I give it to you. You may not like what you're gonna hear and I'll be fine if you ignore it completely.
     
  8. divezonescuba

    divezonescuba ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    There is only one PADI tec school in Vero Beach. The course director/instructor trainer/ tec instructor there does not require one piece webbing harnesses. He is a very reasonable competent knowledgeable person.

    It is a great facility. People go there from all over the country. I was able to stay in one of the dorm rooms for free. They allow you to do that depending on availability and what courses you are taking. They also sort of feed you there, if you don’t mind what is in the refrigerator. There is a grocery store and macdonalds next door. If you have any juice left over at the end of the day, you can use the on site salt water pool to fine tune your gear.

    If you have VA benefits, it’s the only place to go.
     
  9. electric_diver

    electric_diver Barracuda

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    I disagree with JohnnyC

    Shoulder pads are useful if you walk anywhere with the tanks on your back. ie From the car to the boat, ladders, stairs shore entries and exits etc. They spread the load on your shoulders.

    Having participated in the rescue of a dir compliant individual I consider quick releases on the shoulder to be essential. The arguments about failure points and plastic just don't outweigh the ability to get someone out of their harness quickly.
     
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  10. doctormike

    doctormike ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Not sure what you mean. Every DIR diver that I have seen has had some sort of quick release, and I always carry my own just in case...

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