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The Cave Politics, Rumor Monger and Gossip Guild is alive and well. Let's end it!

Discussion in 'Cave Diving' started by The Chairman, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. kensuf

    kensuf Cave Instructor

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    Yup.
     
  2. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    That is the one where George gave a WKPP presentation, and held the microphone to his mouth and kept his bicep muscle flexed the whole time. To me the presentation was less impressive as the thought, this much muscle tetany ,he is going to have a major cramp.
     
  3. mdax

    mdax Solo Diver

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    Looks like jax does not give free labor to this board, I was informed she's never been a mod here, which is good to hear.
    How anyone could hold back condemnation for her actions I have no idea. My suspicion is that only people who live in internet land, have no real job or live off the dole can possibly relate to contacting someones employer over an internet post.
    No amount of 1800 sticker or facebook analogies confuse me, peoples actions deserve FAR more critique than their words and ideas. In this case her actions were indefensible.
     
  4. If I'm reading this correctly, cave divers are actually trying to kill each other by tampering/removing/sabotaging each other's cave line markers ?
     
  5. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    This is nothing new. There are multiple philosophies of thought on different things, and people are passionate about certain ways. I have seen people get into fist fights about their personal views. For example, there is one school of though that line arrows face the nearest exit, and there are those that feel they need to face the direction of your travel. These to philosophies can be diametrically opposed, and can cause safety issues (and have). The real pity is I have seen people take their opinion too far, make changes while people are in the cave, and endanger people.
     
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  6. kensuf

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    The arrows thing was a long time ago, like almost 20 years. There was a place in Mexico that replaced the majority of line arrows in well traveled caves with arrows advertising their rental condo complex. Someone took umbrage and replaced them with a bunch of pink arrows. It's possible that a few were not replaced in the process.
     
  7. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    I remember when that was ongoing in the 90's and diving those systems at that time. Funny thing is I have a personal cave diving history box that I stick iconic items, eg Exley backup light, Eckhoff spool, Berman deco wet note book etc. One item is one of the line arrow war arrows. I remember diving there before knowing about the wars, and on a dive being handed a handful of line arrows to start swapping them out, without an explanation. I remember getting home and reading an article in the NACD journal about the line arrow wars, and realizing I was complicit. :)
     
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  8. kensuf

    kensuf Cave Instructor

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    I recently installed one of the line arrow war arrows at stage bottle rock to replace the broken arrow that was there. I put the wrong distance # on it though, 1900 instead of 1800, so I need to swap it out. I have another one of the line arrow wars arrows that I'll use to keep it consistent. They're big, they're red, they work well.
     
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    Hawkwood MSDT

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