The PADI PSD program / Request for action

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BladesRobinson

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I attended the unveiling of the PADI PSD program in Orlando last week and ask for your help.

PADI is introducing a “new” set of public safety diver line signals. Many public safety divers, including me, are concerned that these signals will not enhance safety and will only make things more confusing when, under extremely difficult circumstances, public safety divers and dive teams are trying to work together to mitigate an emergency.

Presently Dive Rescue International and four other dive training agencies (ERDI, IANTD, NAPD and PSDA) use a standardized set of line signals in their public safety diving curriculum. PADI has now introduced a “new” set of signals that is radically different from what a large majority of the public safety dive teams in North America use presently. As professionals, we know how important communication is when agencies are working together to resolve a problem.

Many believe that the citizens who rely on the services of a public safety dive team should have teams that can work seamlessly together. A component to both “public safety” and “diver safety” is the ability to communicate and a standardized set of line signals among the public safety divers responding to an incident is critical.

If you have any influence within the PADI organization, please consider writing and voicing your concern(s) because it is my hope that divers trained by PADI will be able to work in a unified manner with public safety dive teams trained by the five other agencies.

Thank you in advance for your concern and your assistance.

Regards,


Blades Robinson, Executive Director
International Association of Dive Rescue Specialists
Post Office Box 877
Vero Beach, FL 32961-0877
U.S.A.

www.IADRS.org
800-IADRS-911



THE STANDARD PSD LINE SIGNALS PRESENTLY USED BY DIVE RESCUE INTERNATIONAL, IANTD, ERDI, NAPD, and PSDA
Tender to Diver
1 pull - Okay. Okay?
2 pulls - Stop, take out slack, reverse direction
3 pulls - Come to the surface
4 pulls - Stop, don't move

Diver to Tender
1 pull - Okay. Okay?
2 pulls - Advance line
3 pulls - Object found
4 pulls (or more) - Need assistance/back up diver (This may or may not be an emergency depending on how firmly the signal is sent. Four EASY pulls would not be interpreted as a diver in dire trouble yet four sharp pulls or continuous line pulls would obviously indicate a more urgent need for a safety diver.)

THE “NEW” PADI SIGNALS
Tender to Diver
1 = Stop
2 = Okay
3 = Take up slack
4 = To be determined by the team
5 or more pulls = Come to the surface

Diver to Tender
1 = Stop <--- I HAD TO DOUBLE CHECK... WHY WOULD THE DIVER TELL THE TENDER TO "STOP?"
2 = Okay
3 = Give more line
4 = Target located
5 or more pulls = Something wrong or help
 
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PADI's line pulls look a little like the U.S. Navy line pull signal table. The one that gets me is 3 pulls from the tender telling the diver to take up slack? Isn't that backwards? The tender is the one who would be taking up slack.
 
Does anyone really take PADI seriously?

Somewhat, but they should stay in the Recreational Diving world
whats next PADI Commercial Scuba
 
That is also different from their ice diving line signals.
 
PADI does not want them to be standardized. They want you to adopt their ways. Means more money for them teaching all of you "amateurs" the right way to do things. Don't you know that? If you really want to have an effect, refuse to recognize their program when dealing with other agencies and make it known clearly that their training is not acceptable for agencies working with you.
 
I am underimpressed with PADI training in Search and Rescue in real world applications. Much of it does not work well. This line signal mess is just another example. I work with 5 or 6 different agencies in diving ops using line signals. It would be very confusing and dangerous if we were not all on the same sheet of music.
 
I wondered how this was going to play out when I heard (and at first did not believe) that PADI would be coming out with a PSD course.

Blades, did anyone point out to them to differences? Did they offer any sort of suggestion how these signals evolved, or did they just make 'em up to be different??
 
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