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Very shallow water solo diving for metal detecting?

Discussion in 'Solo Divers' started by Anonymous_Diver, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. Anonymous_Diver

    Anonymous_Diver Garibaldi

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    Hey Kelemvor thanks for the information. I know once I get re-cert'ed I will eventually fly down to Florida and take a tour / assist with their dive boat for a few days. Otherwise, all of my detecting will be outside of the USA. I suppose I should also re-up my FL boating licence too while I am at it...

    And yes, a good friend of mine also said never tell anyone where you hunt unless you want to always invite them over as once the word is out, everyone will be out there with you. Thank you again for the information.
     
  2. markmud

    markmud Self Reliant Diver--On All Dives. ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Ha!
    I was stoned by a father and son combo. They were throwing large rocks, not pebbles. When I surfaced they had started to bolt away. There was an expression of fear on their faces.

    :shocked:
    markm
     
  3. almostDIR

    almostDIR Barracuda

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    Location: Finland
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    I would consider shallow solo diving pretty much the same risk level as a bit deeper solo diving as long as you stay within NDL limits.
    Hookah diving would have lots higher risk levels than scuba though especially if going deep and if using a compressor hookah rather than surface scuba tank supply. AND if not being certified and knowledgeable about compressed air diving.

    if wanting to use hookah it would be best to have a scuba tank backup with you and make sure you stay within NDL at all times, it would be otherwise pretty unpractical if you need to haul multiple scuba tanks with you to be able to complete decompression if the hookah dies at the end of a hours long dive.

    scuba would probably also be healthier because having much better filtered air. the basic hookah setups are pretty miserable looking filtering wise and I would never want to breath hours from one of those ones, especially if it's gasoline powered and there is high risk of getting the exhaust fumes to the air inlet while you dive. the impression I have gotten from the available hookah systems is that they are generally marketed to persons not scuba certified and who believe they could "safely" save some money by using a hookah instead of scuba gear. the hookah stuff seems to be cheap-o Chinese air compressors slightly modified and some sub-par carbon filter added without further safety measures and no backup whatsoever, the intention being that if the compressor stops you will just shoot to the surface like a Polaris missile and risk burst lung / decompression illness.
    I considered hookah stuff last year when looked for options for remote diving but the available affordable options looked too much like 'passive cigarette smoking machines' health wise so I will rather haul the scuba tanks to the remote sites :poke:

    Maybe first getting scuba certified and then decide later if you want to use hookah or go with scuba instead? if the hookah is very good quality it could maybe be used if you have scuba backup with you like suggested. I would use a good sized pony bottle like 40cf or more for shallow diving, the spare air would probably not be enough especially if you get entangled. the hookah hose is additional entanglement hazard and it is great to have a backup scuba with you in case you need to get out of the hose entanglement mess:)
     
  4. happy-diver

    happy-diver Skindiver Just feelin it ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    with some more experience you would be doing yourself a favour
    if you honed all these ideas of yours, preferably with explosives
     
  5. johndiver999

    johndiver999 Manta Ray

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    The guy needs a 40 cuf bottle to bail out from less than 15 feet? As for the other comments...
     
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  6. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    You could do a refresher class, rather than repeating the class.

    As @kelemvor mentioned the flag can be required by the state, as in Florida, or a particular jurisdiction like Corps of Engineers lakes. I ran into that when checking out a new dive site, since it wasn't posted we didn't know, the ranger was nice and just told us to use one next time.


    Bob
     
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  7. American Digger In Europe

    American Digger In Europe Angel Fish

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    Location: Germany
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    I have many years experience in Underwater Metal Detecting, with plenty of beach and SCUBA Detecting videos on my YouTube channel, linked in my signature below.

    In my opinion, diving hookah for underwater metal detecting is not only a pain in the hind-quarters, but also an expense that you really don't need.

    I usually set up my SCUBA equipment and get into the water very early in the morning to avoid the tourist crowds and exit the water before the tourists start coming to the beach.

    My strategy is to beach detect the first morning out to neck-depth with my CTX 3030 and do SCUBA the next morning with my Excalibur II. When SCUBA Detecting, I ALWAYS attach a dive-flag torpedo with a reel to my Excalibur II even when I'm searching in a roped-off swimmer only area because on more than one occasion, I've had a Sea-Do violate the rope and fly by me "danger-close". It also allows my wife to see where I am at anytime.

    When beach detecting and using my sand-scoop, I wear a heavy weight belt to maintain negative buoyancy. I also wear an inner-tube basket firmly attached to my weight belt to assist in shifting through pebbles I may have in my sand-scoop and also as an emergency flotation device. One time I was beach detecting on an unfamiliar beach and stepped into a 5 meter deep hole. The basket attached to my weight belt saved me.

    My personal rules:

    1. NEVER SCUBA detect deeper than 5 meters.
    2. Make sure you use a torpedo with a dive flag and attach it to your detector.
    3. ALWAYS have someone on the shore to track your location.
    4. Have TWO cutting tools.
    5. Religiously service your equipment!

    Additionally: If I were you, I'd take a SCUBA Refresher and a Stress and Rescue Course. On one occasion, I got caught by my first stage in fishing line and had to remove my SCUBA unit and cut my way out of it. Taking a Stress and Rescue course will allow you to keep cool and think your way out of a bad situation.

    Good Luck and Happy Hunting! Keep me posted on your progress!
     
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