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Video from a Training Dive with John Chatterton

Discussion in 'Technical Diving Specialties' started by Zack-Bloom, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. MichaelMc

    MichaelMc Divemaster Candidate

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    I forgot that anti cave vitriol was in this thread. I tuned that out as wack a doodle. Some people needed other hobbies, than creating vitriol.

    (I did not report that, figuring mods were on it. I did report stuff in other threads.)
     
  2. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    That's right Ken. I did say that. What's the problem with a Paralenz mounted to your mask strap?

    Please enlighten me on how that impacts controlling a class. I'm very curious.
     
  3. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board

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    It's still a distraction. I won't use one in OW, save one on the bottom of the pool for special problems.
     
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  4. rjack321

    rjack321 Captain

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    1) That wasn't me
    2) I think there's a huge difference between filming someone working on a backkick vs filming a team of three manage having a cut line, a right post failure, an OOA and a SMB shoot.

    For me filming, it was a full time job on the latter. Being in the right place at the right time with the right angle to illustrate - with the explicit understanding that they would need the video to see "what went wrong" was not a simple task. The whole reason I was filming as a DM was to allow the instructor to focus on the class not the camera.
     
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  5. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    It is sitting in my mask, and records what you are looking at (the student). How is that a distraction? It requires zero attention on my part.

    Many RAID and other instructors use cameras in open water. I still don’t see how it interferes with anything
     
  6. lv2dive

    lv2dive Formerly known as KatePNAtl Staff Member

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    With one class being an exception, the times I was filmed in class were very insightful. I never felt unsafe even in the good ole days when my instructor was managing a full-size video cam in an ikelite housing.

    I think the mask strap or forehead video cams are fine for use in a class, as long as it’s not distracting for the students. That does not take away from the potential level of difficulty for a dedicated videographerdoing a good job. The difference in expectations of the results from a mask strap/forehead cam vs a dedicated videographer can be profound.
     
  7. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    There have been deaths as a result of a distracted instructor from cameras. This was the old days though
     
  8. tech_diver

    tech_diver Dive Equipment Manufacturer

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    Small instructor cams could become like body cams on police officers...
     
  9. martincohn

    martincohn Solo Diver

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    And once again it boils down to a personal decision.

    Don't want your instructor to use a camera during class? Ask them before you spend $$$.
    Don't like the answer? Find a different instructor.
     
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  10. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board

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    It is for me. I didn't say it was for you. I didn't say it was for Ken. It is for me. But then, I find a snorkel on my mask strap a distraction. There are a lot of things I find distracting, and avoid them while with a student. No need to justify how you teach to me. You do you and I'll do me. Teach and let teach, n'est pas?
     

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