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Video from a Training Dive with John Chatterton

Discussion in 'Technical Diving Specialties' started by Zack-Bloom, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. ChuckP

    ChuckP Manta Ray

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    I know the dang pain - I live in paradise and ain't been in the water in three weeks.... house remodel that I would not recommend to anyone, not even you cave divers LOL

    Hope the dog is well
     
  2. rddvet

    rddvet DIR Practitioner

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    Edit.... never mind. This is a pointless effort in futility. You obviously are ok with what I would consider the allowance of exceptionally poor quality skills in a technical course. Nothings going to change, so it’s not worth the discussion anymore.
     
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  3. doctormike

    doctormike ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    You know, leaving aside the larger issues of the thread, this is one point you might want to reconsider.

    If anything, JC's methods reflect the "golden years" of Atlantic wreck diving, in the early 90s. At that time, technical training was much less organized than it is today, with more informal mentoring and with less concern about form, trim and the agency-driven certification hierarchy that we now have.
     
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  4. rddvet

    rddvet DIR Practitioner

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    Times change. There is an expected basic level of student competency that should go through all courses. He’s not out diving for fun. He’s teaching people. My original point pages ago is that students should be held to a higher standard than is demonstrated in the video (and some other videos). Once they’re out fo the class if they want to kneel, then it’s on them.

    But again I edited my post because this thread is becoming pointless. The two camps will have to agree to disagree.
     
  5. doctormike

    doctormike ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yeah, I just meant that whatever issues you have with his style, it’s not because modern standards are getting lax. I think that he has been doing what he does since the early days.
     
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  6. rddvet

    rddvet DIR Practitioner

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    Got you. I misunderstood and agree. What I meant is that seeing that type of class is frustrating more so because my circle of friends and I are seeing an influx of poor instruction in our diving community.
     
  7. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    Your house remodel is probably a lot more extensive than me getting the baby room ready (future diver arrives in November).

    Unfortunately, the dog is having a rough time and managing his pain is difficult.

    Not a cave diver, yet. Need to be before I move to Greece and open a dive op. Lots of caves all over. Not like Florida or Mexico, but some fun stuff,
     
  8. Heat Miser

    Heat Miser Angel Fish

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    Well team (@rjack321, @cerich, @wetb4igetinthewater, @doctormike, @CptTightPants21m, @rddvet, @ChuckP) I learn't alot more in pp. 43...45 then I did in the first 40 pages of rant about knees, trim and stage bottles. I'm yet to make it to pp. 46...49 but its late in OZ. time for bed.... I'll take a free class with anyone in Nov/Dec 2020 when over their and do a compare and contrast video session with a Chatterton course. I hope he is still certified with an Agency. Yeah right like he or I would care. I need to get a bit of experience under my belt first, do you guys think you have had any influence at all on the way Chatterton will teach going forward, I suspect not.
     
  9. rddvet

    rddvet DIR Practitioner

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    I don't think he probably even knows about this thread or cares. None of us expect to have any influence on how he teaches. My suspicion is he's like the couple of "legends" we have here that are getting names as bad instructors-even if you express your concerns to their face they won't care.
    I don't even care if it effects people choosing to take his course. I'm more bothered that what I don't agree with still happens every day, and that people have no issue with it.
     
  10. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    a series of cool pics brought to you by great photography and skills in trim and buoyancy in wrecks that some feel is not useful in wreck diving

    Audrey Cudel
     
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