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Wanting to go streamlined

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by Ken-Tac, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. Jim Lapenta

    Jim Lapenta Dive Shop

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    Just pointing out that handing off the pony to an OOA diver is a really bad idea. Unless they are trained in using and carrying it, it's just adding to their stress. Similar to the OOA diver take the octo that is taught in some classes. Gives the "you're OOA? Well your not getting my reg, so good luck finding something to breathe from!" message. Handing the pony says "You're OOA? Here, take this. Good luck with that."

    You donate your octo or primary and go on the pony yourself if the main gas supply starts to get lower than you'd like. The idea of assisting an OOA diver is to assist them. Meaning in the usual recreational sense - maintaining physical contact.

    I actually discovered that I needed to have a workshop ready for divers who come to me for con-ed with a pony that I didn't initially train. Primarily due to their previous instruction not addressing it and they somehow decided that having one was a good idea. I always spend a few minutes in my OW class when discussing the gas management portion using SAC rates and Rock Bottom calculations to cover the use of one. And why for many divers at the OW level, it's a bad idea to just go out a get one without at least some instruction in its set up and use.
     
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  2. p_kos

    p_kos Contributor

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    Yes, using a pony without training is not a great idea. And my suggestion for a pony on deeper dives is more for self-sufficient redundancy rather than to donate it to a buddy (a great option but only if both divers are trained in how to give/receive a pony).
     
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  3. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Woof! ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    I'm amazed he hasn't been told to scrap the idea and get a CCR.....
     
  4. Silt Life

    Silt Life Regular of the Pub

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    I only suggested it only for a diver that was calm with the octo. Otherwise, your right about saving it for myself if we suck down my tank!
     
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  5. p_kos

    p_kos Contributor

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    Guess I should have just said to try a long hose (because they DO streamline better than 40” primaries no matter how you try to spin it) and left it at that. As with anything, diving a long hose (or a 40” primary for that matter) without some training/practice can create unnecessary but easily fixed problems that are far outweighed by the advantages. I acknowledge that assuming future potential uses for the 40” was unnecessary at this point and potentially confusing to a new diver.
     
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  6. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    ...and only certain CCRs.
     
  7. lexvil

    lexvil ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    Anything after a Dreager is just a crutch.
     
  8. p_kos

    p_kos Contributor

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    Yes, and skip the training too or just make his own CCR. Let’s keep getting more triggered.
     
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  9. Coztick

    Coztick Contributor

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    Sidemount is the BEST way to streamline!
    Hey, you started it! FB_IMG_1558116478654.jpg
     
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  10. rx7diver

    rx7diver Solo Diver

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    Deleted by rx7diver.
     
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