Weighed some tanks at various PSIs and got unexpected results.

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@CaveSloth
The last post in the thread I linked to earlier has some data that came from one Aluminum tank manufacturer:

Dear friends...do you remember the question about the temp used in volume calculations??..here the answer i received from lufex about the method they used for determined it...

this follows:

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your recent enquiry via our website, I apologise for the
delay
in replying to you.

I belive that you have been looking at the values given for our US
cylinder
range and so I have been in touch with a colleuague in the USA and
asked for
his comments on your query. His reply was as follows:

"We have traditionally used data published by the Department of
Explosives
(now Department of Weights and Measures, I believe). This data was
published for the compressibility of air at standard room temperature
of 70F
(21C). This data was originally printed in the early 70's and so could
be
outdated. The way the calculation works is as follows:

Take the internal volume of the cylinder divide by a residual gas
factor for
the pressure in question which gives the standard cubic foot capacity
of the
cylinder.

The data we use may be slightly different to other published values by
other
organizations. It should all be relatively close however. Also please
bear
in mind that we do some rounding of the numbers to come up with the
capacity. So although an S80 will state 80 cu ft of air at 3000 psi,
the
real number could be anywhere from 75 to 84.9.

The residual gas factor I have for air at 3000 psi is 8.763 cu in water
capacity/cu ft of air. The internal volume of an S80 is 678 cu in.
Therefore, in this case, the capacity in cu ft is 678/8.763 = 77.37 cu
ft of
air."
 
lp85 = 13L
13*2640/14.696=2,335L
2,335L = 82.5 cu ft / 1.0173(z factor) = 81.1 cu ft actual
13*3750/14.696=3,317L
3,317L = 117 cu ft / 1.075(~z factor) = 109 cu ft actual

That gets you part of the way to your delta. Temps can be a pretty big factor. These numbers assume 70f and air.
 
Alright then, sounds like temps and possibly instrument precision errors could account for the discrepancy. So, sounds like our tanks probably aren't deficient?

Also, what is really important for me to know is how many minutes of breathing can I personally get out of 100 PSI at a given depth with a given tank, not exactly how much air it can hold.
 
what is the accuracy of the scale in question and operating range? when was it's last calibration?
 
One of these is pretty cool if you are math challenged...

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Shame they stopped making them.
 
what is the accuracy of the scale in question and operating range? when was it's last calibration?
So much this.
Did OP use a regular bathroom scale type of scale, because if so that number might differ a fair bit from the real truth.
 

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