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What BC Do You Use For Public Safety Diving?

Discussion in 'Public Safety Divers/Search and Rescue' started by suthnbelle, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. daniel f aleman

    daniel f aleman Loggerhead Turtle

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    I said it above: you have to be able to get out of your BC if needed. Your harness needs to be on your body under the BC. The BC needs quick release straps - you will not have time to find, and then use shears to cut yourself out. The ability to carry a second air-source, pony, is required by almost every situation.

    Been there, have a box full of t-shirts.
     
  2. suthnbelle

    suthnbelle ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Leam and I are on the same team so maybe I can answer this. :D Remember....rookie here so cut me some slack. It is a switching block that you manually turn in one direction to breath off either primary reg (AGA) or the pony bottle. This is clipped off to a D-ring. There is also a chest strap that is used to clip their safety line.

    We have training again on Tuesday night for check out on running the boats so I'm going to pull out one of their BCs and I can give you a better description of what they have. I'm thinking if I can't wear their BCs then I may get the Dive Rite quick release harness. Just thinking out loud here.

    BTW, thanks for the t-shirt comment daniel. That reminds me I need to get one of the county t-shirts for myself. :D Hadn't given it much thought until now.

    Mel
     
  3. renpirate

    renpirate Instructor, Scuba

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    Would you say that a 40cf is too big for PSD? I ask because it is also the perfect size for a deco bottle, which I would use for other diving.

    As far as standards, there doesn't seem to be an accepted one. Although, the National Fire Protection Agency(NFPA) is developing standards that fire departments can choose to adopt. Also, the Department of Homeland Security is also developing standards to govern PSD, mostly aimed at law enforcement.
     
  4. renpirate

    renpirate Instructor, Scuba

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    Your points are well taken. What size of pony would you recommend and would you sling it or mount it to your tank?
     
  5. daniel f aleman

    daniel f aleman Loggerhead Turtle

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    19 cfa; also, it's slung.
     
  6. Gary D.

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    I totally agree and it is a "very large percentage" of sport gear that is unsuited for PSD work.

    That should fan some flames. :D

    Gary D.
     
  7. daniel f aleman

    daniel f aleman Loggerhead Turtle

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  8. leam

    leam Solo Diver

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    Yes! :D

    One day I will write clearly. Doens't look like today is the day though. We have two tanks, AL 80 and a small (30 breathe?) pony. Both go into a manifold that lets me manually switch which bottle provides gas. This goes to the Aga mask. We also have an Air2 that comes off the AL 80 so if the air flow from the Aga is messed up we can breathe off the Air2 long enough to get to the surface.

    ciao!

    leam
     
  9. bridgediver

    bridgediver Instructor, Scuba

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    Leam/Mel - thanks for clearing that up. I'll calm down now:wink: It sounded like there was no pony in the equation there and I've heard of teams that don't use them and say that their air2 is the redundant supply. For you guys its kind of your 3rd.

    Andy - 40's are great for tech but I'd say too big for PSD unless you're going deep - say past 100'. You'd have to sling a 40 just because of its size. Our team won't go past 60' - lots and lots of training to go deeper then that for PSD so 19's and 30's for us. Tiger mounts are the best but they cost (worth it IMO).
    We won't sling because we're always low vis/blackout so a slung tank will be more easily fouled as we crawl along the bottom. - probably not a big deal in mexico though right Daniel?

    HA -- I finally got Gary to say something controversial :D
     
  10. renpirate

    renpirate Instructor, Scuba

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    We would be diving in a river, so I can see the point about snags with a slung bottle. As I look at the Tiger Mount, I can't help but wonder, if doubles with an isolation valve and independent regs might be an option. This ofcourse affects the selection of BC, which is why I mention it here. Surface supplied air will not me an option, at least for a while.

    Gary, would the pony be used as a pass off air source to a trapped victim in rescues or are they always unconcious by the time you get there?
     

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