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What level of intstructor needed to train DM?

Discussion in 'Going Pro' started by cgvmer, Nov 22, 2014.

  1. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I'd call PADI Training, explain the situation, and get their advice.
     
  2. Diver0001

    Diver0001 Instructor, Scuba

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    Are there specific performance requirements you have not yet met?

    Either way, if I were in your position and they weren't being clear about what it was going to take to finish then I would ask for a referral form. That will force them to document what you have and have not done. With that you have a baseline to discus how to close the gap and/or take your business elsewhere.

    R..
     
  3. oly5050user

    oly5050user Dive Travel Professional

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    So what do you have left to do? Finished all map projects,assisted ow class in classroom and pool, assisted in training dives,have approved medical signed off by a MD, rescue evaluation done,?? If everything completed have them sign you off and get paperwork to PADI.
     
  4. scoobydrew

    scoobydrew Master Instructor

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    If you do end up leaving the people you are with right now uncertified then make sure you at least get your referral paper showing what you have done so far.

    Your original question has already been answered - a freshly minted OWSI can sign off your DM provided all aspects of the course have been completed.
     
  5. cgvmer

    cgvmer Divemaster Candidate

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    Thanks for the answer to the Original Question and the other opinions were helpful as well.
     
  6. DownbelowDiver

    DownbelowDiver Course Director

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    Hey cgvmer :)

    Yup, as with everyone else's answer, a PADI Open Water Scuba Instructor level is able to qualify a student diver in the first professional level: PADI Divemaster.

    Dive training is so much more valuable for students when there's a rapport between Instructor and student. Whoever your Instructor is, I suggest you continue your dive training with them because it seems you're getting a lot of support, which assists your learning curve :)

    I didn't certify any student divers as PADI Divemaster until I was qualified as PADI IDC Staff Instructor though; and beforehand, I worked as a full-time OWSI for more than a year.
    At Downbelow Marine and Wildlife Adventures, the Go PRO team of elite Instructors are responsible for all professional dive training conducted at our premier PADI 5 Star IDC Dive Centre on Gaya Island, Kota Kinabalu.
    The Go PRO team is led by resident Platinum PADI Course Director Richard Swann, who oversees Go PRO internship candidates' dive training. We will 'team-teach' our interns with our own experiences living the dive lifestyle, and they will also observe a variety of instructional approaches at our dive operations to develop their own skills of supervision and leadership.

    Getting advice from an experienced Instructor with hundreds (or better yet, thousands!) of student diver certifications, and years of dive industry experience is fantastic for your learning...but then again, if you don't 'click' with one another...well, you won't WANT to learn! :p
     
  7. RJP

    RJP Scuba Media & Publications

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    Sounds like he has nearly EVERYTHING left to do

    • [-]Complete knowledge development segments including Knowledge Reviews in the PADI Divemaster Manual or through Divemaster Online, and pass the Divemaster Final Exam.[/-]
    • Create an Emergency Assistance Plan for a designated
    dive site.
    • [-]Complete waterskills exercises.[/-]
    • Complete a diver rescue assessment.
    • Complete the dive skills workshop and assessment.
    • Complete practical application skills.
    • Complete divemaster-conducted programs workshops.
    • Complete practical assessments.
    • Meet the professionalism criteria.
     
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  8. oly5050user

    oly5050user Dive Travel Professional

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    Hey RJP thats what I said! so if this is what is still required I see he needs more pool time , probably 18hrs + and a few weekends at local ow training site.and academics to be completed...for some dm candidates that can be an entire season around here.
     
  9. RJP

    RJP Scuba Media & Publications

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    I spent nearly a full year doing my DM. Working a demanding full-time job - and having a wife and two kids - made knocking the program out quite challenging. (Diving is seasonal here in the Northeast as well, so that didn't help matters.)

    On the up-side, I was able to work with a wide range of instructors and students over that period of time, DMing for multiple classes, DSDs, etc, rather than simply doing the minimum required to meet standards. To me, working with a range of instructors is far more beneficial than working with just "the one" instructor who's name is on your card.

    The instructor running your DM program doesn't really "teach" you anything. It's up to you to "learn" --- so to a certain extent "it's the candidate, not the instructor" in this case
     
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