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Which pee valve?

Discussion in 'Exposure Suits' started by wgmontgomery, Apr 24, 2018.

Which drysuit pee valve should I buy?

  1. Halcyon

    12.5%
  2. Dive Rite

    3.1%
  3. Lite Monkey

    50.0%
  4. Other brand

    18.8%
  5. Balanced

    34.4%
  6. Unbalanced

    31.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    I don't bother with QD's anymore. My current setup started as a balanced LM (came with suit). I removed the duck bill and plugged with a reg port plug to make it unbalanced. To increase flow and removed the need to prime it I removed the mushroom/umbrella valve under the cap on your thigh. If valve left open it primes itself when I get in the water.

    If you want a QD, US Plastics sells them, lots of options and fairly inexpensive. They are the same ones used for P valves and motorcycle fuel tanks, etc.
     
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  2. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    There was a Great thread on TDS called something like the trials and tribulations of the condom catheter. It was not only extremely entertaining, it answered most questions about P valves and caths and setup, even the ones some folks found uncomfortable to ask.
     
  3. Lorenzoid

    Lorenzoid ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    There are some SB threads discussing QDs and giving the McMaster-Carr part numbers or links thereto. Assuming your norprene tubing is the same ID Halcyon uses, I'll save you the Googling:

    McMaster-Carr

    McMaster-Carr
     
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  4. Lorenzoid

    Lorenzoid ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    This?

    The Deco Stop

    I also see:

    P-Valve. What is it?
     
  5. rsingler

    rsingler Scuba Instructor, Tinkerer in Brass Staff Member ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    Duh! I use McM for everything else. Why didn't I remember that? Thanks!
     
  6. Jack Hammer

    Jack Hammer Solo Diver

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    That looks about right. I thought there was another from around 2009 or so too, don't recall the title. There was also a great one on the She-P for the ladies.
     
  7. broncobowsher

    broncobowsher Solo Diver

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    Those are the same quick disconnects I use. I probably use too many.
    The catheter gets an open flow. A short extension hose puts me at a closed flow that mates to a closed flow in the suit. The closed flow prevents the plumbing from draining and making a mess when disconnected. You might spill a drop or two with the closed flow as you disconnect.
    But the big key one is being able to disconnect the extension hose from yourself. You don't ever want to be in the position where you need an adaptor or take the condom off in order to take a pee.
    I prep before laving home/hotel. Always test fire the plumbing to make sure everything is comfortable. The ability to stop and take a leak before suiting up is a fairly normal experience. No special tools needed.
    The sockets are always the shrouded release buttons. I want that ridge around the button to prevent accidental button pressing. The original supplier, which I once bought directly through but won't anymore.
    APC : General Purpose : Colder Products Company (CPC)

    McMaster also carries the noroprene hose. (not neoprene)

    Another tip, getting that damn thing off. The inverted peel isn't the best. I have found that the stretch to insane diameter and pull the adhesive perpendicular releases it better. Still not fun or enjoyable. But that stretching thins out the adhesive so it isn't as bad. And clean up, WD40. Surprisingly mild on skin and just enough solvent to remove the glue. Generally do this a day after diving when you see the lint stuck to the glue. You know just the areas to clean. And when done, washes off in the shower with soapy water (the glue won't wash off on its own).

    And if you are tugging at hairs, you didn't manscape enough. It will grow back, don't worry about it. You will learn how much or little is needed in time. Part of that learning curve.
     
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  8. NatureLVR

    NatureLVR Rebreather Pilot

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    There is also a product called Uni-Solve. It is made to dissolve the glue on the cath. Makes life quite easy. Another product I use is called Skin-Prep, that can be used before the cath is put on to make removal easier. Both are sold at you favorite creepy medical supply house.
     
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  9. sava6e

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    So I put my suit on and then took my left arm and just hung it down and that was the distance so it would be comfortable to grab, I imagine it would be frustrating not being able to open or close your valve. The barb for mine goes at say the 10 o clock position facing away from my groin so it allows flexibility but also allows just a little bit of tension to keep everything un kinked, then I cut the hose shorter so my man parts hang down and no up and over loops, I took a .50 cal casing and used it to put a hole lower in my thermals to thread the hose through, so to answer straight run
     
  10. sava6e

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    Amazon has them they are used for boating gas lines and atv gas lines
     
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