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Which places have the worst reputation for selling certifications?

Discussion in 'Q and A for Scuba Certification Agencies' started by Digg, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Digg

    Digg Angel Fish

    While asking for which agency in your experience sells certification surely sparks fights, I hope being curious
    about which places have the worst reputation for selling certifications, sometimes completely out of water, is permitted.

    Thank you
  2. hroark2112

    hroark2112 Tech Instructor

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: Raleigh, NC
    Selling certifications, without completing the requirements of the standards, would be a great way to have your instructor certification yanked.
  3. Digg

    Digg Angel Fish

    I know but there are surprisingly many places in the pacific I've heard of doing something like that
  4. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
    So, the obvious question--Who buys a certification without doing the work? For what reason? Why cheat on the OW written exam, etc.? It's not high school (I NEVER cheated there.....).
  5. seeker242

    seeker242 DIR Practitioner

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Pompano Beach, FL
  6. Hawkwood

    Hawkwood MSDT ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: None - Not Certified
    Location: NA
    How about telling us where you have heard of this, especially the comment regarding not even being in the water?

    You seem to be beating around the bush and have something to say.
  7. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 2,500 - 4,999
    Location: U.S. East Coast
    As in his other SSI thread.
  8. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

    Define exactly what you mean by selling certifications? Every shop and instructor "sells certifications". They have a class, and the cert card costs an extra 20 bucks or so. The class is significantly more. I have issued cards to Navy and Royal Navy divers by observing their log book and observing them in the water, but not necessarily running them through a skill set or completing the book work. I figure a guy with 10,000+ logged dives and perfect trim and buoyancy who teaches Scuba to Royal Navy divers in Portsmouth isn't going to learn much to a PADI instructor in a resort in St. Lucia.

    So what is your real beef here?
    oldschoolto and Jax like this.
  9. Jax

    Jax Deplorable American ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: AZ TX
    I agree with those that infer a hidden beef. It comes across that somewhere, somehow, you've heard of someone doing something wrong. If you "digg" long enough (pun intended), you will find anything.

    The huge majority of instructors insure you meet standards. Some allow total minimal meet of standards, but standards met. Lastly, after the cert, I've seen an awful lot of people blow off what the instructors teach them.

    So, what is your beef?
  10. Wookie

    Wookie Secret Field Agent ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

    I wouldn't be shocked, but I'd be very surprised to find someone selling certifications to someone with no training at all. I'd be shocked if someone could cold walk in a shop door and ask for a blown off cert card and buy one. Even the sleaziest instructor knows that the "diver" needs to know something.
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