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Why diving in Israel

Discussion in 'Red Sea' started by giladshay, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. giladshay

    giladshay Contributor

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  2. sphyrnidus

    sphyrnidus Photographer

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    Hi Gilad, thanks for your article, but....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_attacks_on_Eilat_and_Aqaba
    and there hasn't been an attack on Hurghada since 1994
    I have been diving in the Red Sea for quite some years now, always from Egypt.
    The diving from liveaboards is by no means the only way you can dive there. My wife did a lot of shore diving, never with a DM (other than herself being one :) )
    I found the DM's on liveaboards in Egypt not different than elsewhere we dove withe liveaboards, like the Andaman Sea, the Maldives, Thailand.
    In Egypt I dove from liveaboards quite often whiteout a DM, like we did a night dive on the Thistlegorm by ourselves and many other dives too.
    I don't mind people who try to promote a country or diving area, but try to stay a little close to the truth when you try to compare it with another area.
    Anyway, I'll be in Egypt again next month.
     
  3. Roman_66

    Roman_66 DIR Practitioner

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    In link, which you provided it says that some attacks were organized by --Egyptian Bedouins--
    It might be no rocket attacks in Hurhhada, but around you can be stopped and murder and it continuously happened.
    For local Bedouins it is doesn't matter if you American, Germany or Russian, they exchange tourists to they people from Egypt prisons or for money.
    If you plane lands directly to the area - it is ok, if you need to travel in Egypt - not suggested.
    If your wife dove without local guide, she violated the Egypt law.
    Strange that you didn't compare the life style.....
    Even Egypt has much longer coast, there are a lot to see in Eilat also.
    2015 June, Diving in Israel, Eilat. - YouTube
     
  4. sphyrnidus

    sphyrnidus Photographer

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    @Roman
    You mention the Egyptian law. CDWS is the appointed organisation that makes the rules for diving. Not a law. Here is their statement on diving with guides:
    http://projectoceanvision.com/articles/red_sea_rules/ratios.pdf
    Maybe I'm missing something here, but it doesn't say a guide is obligatory.
    Can you give a link that substantiates what you claim?
    Grtz
    Hans



    https://youtu.be/nnSGJQ8G2Zw
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2015
  5. Nasser

    Nasser ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Diving in Jordan, Sudan, and Egypt is perfectly fine from a security point of few. I was in Sharm just a couple of weeks ago and earlier in the year as well. There is much unnecessary media hype and nonsense regarding this... and some of the silly State Department warnings and the like from Foreign Ministries of other countries.

    Facilities in Jordan and Egypt (especially Dahab and Sharm) are top notch and there are excellent medical facilities that cater specifically to diving. Infrastructure for tourism is highly developed and there are a wide range of comforts to suit every level... from roughing it backpackers style, to eco villages, to high end establishments like the Four Season, Hyatt, etc..

    The vast majority of diving in Egypt is largely done on day boats and off of the shore, but of course there are numerous excellent high-end liveaboards for the more remote regions of the Red Sea.

    I'm sorry but your article is not very accurate and a little misleading.

    ---------- Post added August 7th, 2015 at 11:25 AM ----------

    OH PLEASE!! That can happen to you walking in the street of any major US city or around the world. What about the psychos who walk into movie theaters, shopping malls and Schools n the US and start shooting people at Random ??!! Crime exists everywhere and in every society. The vast majority of local Beduoins are extremely friendly and hospitable to foreigners.

    Please do not try to make unfair and generalized statements regarding a group of people or a culture you clearly do not understand.
     
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  6. sphyrnidus

    sphyrnidus Photographer

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    Thank you for your post Nasser.
    I know most people do shore diving and day boats. We used to do that too. But we're kind of lazy and love liveaboards, also it gets you to better spots, or you are at spots at another time than the day boats arrive :)
    On the dangers of travelling: it is always hard to judge when you're not actually there and so all kinds of fears seem to emerge. For instance a lot of people in Europe are afraid to go to the USA, because of all the shootings and all the guns the US citizens own.
    I have travelled the US for quite a bit and know it's not that bad. :kiss2:
     
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  7. sebach

    sebach Solo Diver

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    Do you have something to support that claim.
    According to the CDWS, the body that govern diving in Egypt, you can even dive solo, under certain conditions. And that exactly what I have done most of the time on my last 3 liveaboard .
     
  8. Roman_66

    Roman_66 DIR Practitioner

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    Yes, you are right it is CDWS rules, not Egypt law.
    I think I saw this one.
    Also this one looks like official CDWS site.
    I am NOT Egypt dive expert.
    Topic was about diving in Israel :)
     
  9. sebach

    sebach Solo Diver

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    On this very website, there's cdws policy regarding solo diving. Hence, the rule regarding diving supervision doesn't mean they ave to be in the water with you.

    This is quite important, and on topic, as according to the original poster,
    and one of his strongest argument in favour of diving in Israel was that you could dive there without a guide, which you couldn't in Egypt.
    So this specific argument just doesn't hold.
    [That doesn't mean that you shouldn't dive there, if you happen to be in Israel.]
     
  10. sphyrnidus

    sphyrnidus Photographer

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    And sorry to say, watching the movie Roman, it's not an advertisement for me to go there as I see mainly sand and dead coral...
     

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