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World Jamboree scuba staff needed

Discussion in 'Scuba Teens' started by mmmeenehan, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. mmmeenehan

    mmmeenehan PADI Pro

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    Would you like to help present the world’s largest introductory scuba experience for youth?

    The International Service Team needs your help to conduct 20,000+ introductory scuba experiences at the 2019 World Scout Jamboree to be held at the Summit Bechtel Reserve in West Virginia July 18 – August 2 2019. We need scuba professionals and even open water divers to help with support positions to conduct this activity.

    To help with this exciting opportunity that will involve scouts from 160 countries from around the world you must be registered with your National Scout Organization (Boy Scouts of America for most of us), register at www.2019wsj.org, and pay a staff fee of $1,800 (which includes room and board for the 16 days and subsidizes less fortunate country’s youth participation)

    For more information see www.2019wsj.org or contact the 2019 World Scout Jamboree Scuba Team leader Mike Meenehan mmmeenehan@cox.net

    If you aren’t interested please pass this along to your friends who are involved with Scouting.
     
  2. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    Wait...you are looking for industry professionals to volunteer....those same professionals that had to pay for their training, to pay for the professional dues, and pay for their professional liability insurance out of pocket...to come to a national BSA event and they have to PAY out of pocket to participate in this VOLUNTEER capacity????

    I am all about volunteer work and giving back to the community but to have to pay a "staff fee of $1,800" is really pushing expectations.

    I hope you find kind enough souled folk to support the event.

    Good luck.
    -Z
     
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  3. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    Yes, of course all of the adult volunteers in scouting (and I assume other youth programs) pay our own way. And attending a National Jamboree in any capacity is a privilege. The appeal was to registered scouters, they already know the drill.
    If the huge corps of volunteer staff for the event were paid, or even just comped, where do you think those funds would come from? Only option would be a significant upcharge to the youth cost of attendance.
    At least it is tax deductible.
     
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  4. Wookie

    Wookie Orange Man Bad Staff Member ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    Good deeds are indeed good. Sometimes they cost more than others.
     
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  5. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    Yeah, I can understand the individual paying room and board, or at least paying for some of it...but any admin fees? Come on...BSA can't waive the admin fees for the professionals they are asking to volunteer and provide service within their professional expertise?

    This is not the same as some Joe who is just helping staff and is doing miscellaneous tasks...there is no professional certification, at least not that I know of, for "miscellaneous task doer". But there is for SCUBA instructors and divemasters.

    Expecting these services to be provided to mass quantities of people while charging the professional an admin staff fee to be at your event just smacks of disrespect and lack of appreciation for what one has to go through to obtain and maintain their professional level accreditation. It cheapens it.

    -Z
     
  6. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    yes indeed...and the road to hell is paid with good deeds and intentions too.

    God forbid someone gets hurt in or around the water, is the BSA going to indemnify the instructors and divemasters invovled? Or do they have to engage their own insurance and battle it out in court? Sounds like a lot of risk...I hope the warm fuzzy feeling offsets the cold reality of the litigious nature of American society.

    -Z
     
  7. Wookie

    Wookie Orange Man Bad Staff Member ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    My stepdad is a chaplain at one of the high adventure camps. Are you saying he should be compensated for his time?

    That isn’t what BSA is about. That’s not what any of this is about. Look. If you don’t want to participate, good on ya, but don’t whine about it, just go away.
     
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  8. Wookie

    Wookie Orange Man Bad Staff Member ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    BSA is insured. See Tuvell in Utah.
     
  9. Zef

    Zef Divemaster

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    Easy enough to reference...but it looks like there was a lot of legal crap to spread around and the both Bluewater and the individual professional were named in the suit:

    From Desert News Utah:
    "In addition to the BSA, the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court names as defendants the Professional Association of Dive Instructors, Blue Water Scuba, instructors Corbett Douglas and Lowell Huber and the Bear Lake camp."

    Also there are motions that were filed/responded to by counsel on behalf of Bluewater as a litigant. For example:
    Tuvell et al v. Boy Scouts of America et al, No. 1:2012cv00128 - Document 240 (D. Utah 2015)

    This just smacks of the "dive professional" accepting both legal and financial liability to participate in the BSA Jamboree.

    Not saying that people should not volunteer, but am saying that BSA is asking a lot for professionals of a high risk activity, and they should at least waive any administrative financial obligation as a good faith gesture.

    -Z
     
  10. Wookie

    Wookie Orange Man Bad Staff Member ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    BSA gives a lot, and volunteers return a lot. Those of us Eagle Scouts get it. Those who dropped out as Tenderfoots might not.
     
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