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Yes/No requirement for Med form

Discussion in 'Q and A for Scuba Certification Agencies' started by tridacna, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    New student gives me a signed med form from doctor authorizing her to dive. Is it a PADI standard to still get Yes/No answers on the form?

    Student says that she does not want to reveal her medical history to me. Not my biz.
     
  2. giffenk

    giffenk Great White

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    Agreed. Not your biz.

    They can say NO to everything. And you know nothing about their personal medical details.

    Or you can trust their doctor. And you still know nothing about their personal medical details.
     
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  3. giffenk

    giffenk Great White

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    @boulderjohn can provide Padi details
     
  4. northernone

    northernone IDC Staff Instructor Staff Member

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    I accept a signed medical in replacement to the yes/no form. I'm not a doctor to question it and the details aren't my business anyway.

    Haven't read anything that suggests I'm painting a liability bull's-eye on me for doing it that way.

    For what it's worth,
    Cameron
     
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  5. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I appreciate the candid advice (I agree), but I'm looking for an actual PADI standard.
     
  6. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I don't think you'll find one. The standards only say if there is a YES answer, then a doctor's clearance is needed. There is no standard in the Manual or in 24 years of Training Bulletins that says all (or any, actually) of the questions must be answered, only that a YES answer requires a clearance. So if a student hands me a signed medical, none of the questions are relevant.
     
  7. northernone

    northernone IDC Staff Instructor Staff Member

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    Glad to hear it.

    My unofficial record is a candidate who showed up with 14 "yes" answers. Returned a few hours later with signed medical clearance. He dives.

    I won't play doctor.
    Cameron
     
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  8. tridacna

    tridacna ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Took me an hour to get an answer on SB. I was on the phone with PADI for over an hour listening to some of the most awful music-on-hold and having to press 1 to stay on the line every 30 seconds. Abysmal service. I wonder if they will re-announce OLPC 2 again at DEMA this year?
     
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  9. boulderjohn

    boulderjohn Technical Instructor Staff Member

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    I do not have the expertise to answer medical questions. If the doctor says someone is good to go, I accept the doctors judgment.
     
  10. The Chairman

    The Chairman Chairman of the Board

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    I'm not PADI, but I would be disinclined to accept her as a student. I can't protect my student if I don't know what's happening with them. What if the doctor gave her a pass on type I diabetes? Most doctors have no clue why people on insulin shouldn't dive. Trust goes both ways. You don't have to trust me, but that means I can't trust you. Have lots of fun learning Scuba: just not from me. Again, this is not a PADI answer.
     
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